Hello All, and a happy 2005. I recently picked up CK in a discount, trade in store. While the prices in these places are usually great(9.99 Canadian), generally your just getting the jewelcase! With a lot of games this is not to much of a problem, Crusader Kings seems quite a bit more complex. Truth be told I am lost! Played a lot of RTS,RPG types, Medieval Total War, RON, etc... But this game doesnt seem anything like any others I've played. So if somebody knows where I can find a .pdf of the manual(I imagine it must be pretty intensive??). I would maybe even buy another copy but I havent seen one?? Is it a good manual, hate to buy another and be diisaponted with a 10 page 'reference card'. Anyways looks like the kinda game Im looking for, something a bit deeper than the usual, please share your thoughts. Thanks, Graiskye 