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Let's say you have a war, and your allies respond to the call. You take some provinces, they take some provinces. Now you make a peace offer to the victim, and you have a choice of which provinces to demand. Will your allies like you more (relations numbers increase) if you toss them a province or two? Do they love you by an increasing amount if you give them more and better provinces? Will they be mad (numbers decrease) if you totally shut them out?

Obviously your AI allies have no problem pulling the plug on the war and leaving you with nothing. Always makes my blood boil when that happens, too (sometimes I go back to the autosaved game and get out of the war first, so there). But it seems to me the game should reward you being "nice" to your allies and getting them provinces at the peace table.

The other night I, as Austria, was at war with Spain. I had nothing of Spain's, and didn't want anything. My AI ally England seized a bunch of stuff in the New World... but lost it all when I agreed to a White Peace. Too bad! I'm just not sure if that affected relations or not.
 
Zhukov,
I'm almost 100% certain that your relations with your allies do suffer if you, as the alliance leader, makes a peace and doesn't demand at least one of the allied controlled provinces for her.
I remember a game, playing as England, with France as an ally, she had taken 2 provinces, I had taken 4, as France hadn't made a seperate peace (with Spain of course!!), I was responsible for the Peace- I grabbed 3 provinces and France got nothing, our relations went from 198 to I think, about 133.
Toby
 
I expect my allies to get a separate peace. It's near the only way they can get sommink out of a war and it'll help relations. Say u have 2 allies and u let them each take a province and then u make peace for another 2 provinces. That's one happy alliance!
 
Will your allies like you more (relations numbers increase) if you toss them a province or two?

No.
The reason is that relation is NOT only a reflection what they think of you, but also what you think of THEM. Any province taken by any ally lowers relations by 10 to all the other since they all think they should have gotten it instead. =)
AFAIK the only way to keep everyone happy is to only take money and distribute it among all the allies (which will actually rise relations by 1 for every 25 D a nation recives I belive).
 
I have a question about this.

When you have make a collective peace as a leader of an alliance with another leader of an alliance, can you ask provinces for your own (occupied by your own forces) and for your allies (occupied by the forces of the allies)?
 
Originally posted by Huszics
I have seen relations increase many a times when I did what I said. Hence why I do it ?!

I wasn't replying to you =)

You talk about separate peaces, my post is about a "collected" alliance peace.
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I was just wondering about that after I read ur post :)

So, separate peaces aren't part of that then. Good to hear.
 
This time I don't like peace

I am new at the game and also new at alliances.
One thing I don't understand. As Turkey I wanted to conquer Persia. I build up my army and had a military alliance with Crimnea and other countries around Persia. To my suprise, Crimnea declared war to an military alliance (with Persia in it) and ask me to join.
Why not, I thought, so I went to war and conquered 5 provinces of Persia. Suddenly I got a message, that Crimnea (as leader of the alliance) took a peace with status quo. So I had to withdraw from my captured provinces and probably cannot declare war at Persia for the next 5 years :mad:

How can I avoid such a situation ? Never accept a small ally as leader of an alliance with me ? Is there a possibility to stay at war with Persia ? Is there something to do, without loosing much stability ?
 
Originally posted by Marcov
I have a question about this.

When you have make a collective peace as a leader of an alliance with another leader of an alliance, can you ask provinces for your own (occupied by your own forces) and for your allies (occupied by the forces of the allies)?
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Yes
 
How can I avoid such a situation ? Never accept a small ally as leader of an alliance with me ? Is there a possibility to stay at war with Persia ? Is there something to do, without loosing much stability ?

To avoid it next time (when your not the war allinace leader), make a separate peace with one of the nations on the other side. From now on you will be the leader of your own little war with the rest of the enemies.
Of course the war leader will have a Temp CB on your for betraying your alliance.
 
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