Historical Improvement Project

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No.

With installer (you have no HIP >= v0.37):
1)Installer
2)v0.373 Graphics
3)v0.374 Graphics
4)v0.374

With installer (you have at least HIP v0.37):
1)v0.373 Graphics
2)v0.374 Graphics
3)v0.374

Without (fresh install):
1)v0.373 Graphics
2)v0.374 Graphics
3)v0.374

With or Without, if you have v0.373:
1)v0.374 Graphics
2)v0.374

I hope, its a bit more clear now.

 

[Enzo]

yep ! thank you very much

 

[MoROmeTE]

I do a clean vaniila 1.0 then 1.3a then 1.3b then Graphics 0.373 and 0.374 and then HIP 0.374... I also found on the downlods page a file AI Research under Bugfixes... Should I move it to events? Thanks.

 

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I do a clean vaniila 1.0 then 1.3a then 1.3b then Graphics 0.373 and 0.374 and then HIP 0.374...

Exactly.

I also found on the downlods page a file AI Research under Bugfixes... Should I move it to events? Thanks.

This is only for v0.373 users, the bug was fixed in v0.373b already. All those bugs will be fixed in the next higher version. So "no" would be the answer.

 

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Panther G I like that OOB for Indian Army

I've found this to be an overall very good site even though its Sept 39' I'm sure Jan 36' is the same. iT Shows upward to 12 Indian Divisions at lease 1 Armoured Division an 1 weak Armoured Division. Many of the deployments are over sized bde. It's easy to see the Indian Army has been to much under sized.


http://home.adelphia.net/~dryan67/orders/ia.html

 

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Bookmarked, thanks.

The UK AI build up is improving, they are now building some armor, more ships and probably still too many planes.

I am thinking about British India as a puppet state, but there are good arguments pro and against, it is not as clear as for Egypt.

 

[raider75]

Waffen-SS

I enjoy HIP but I think the Game could be alot more historical if the TRP MOD system of Waffen-SS Division construction would be utilized.

 

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You mean the Elite Division concept? If yes, this is not possible, because HIP uses already all 10 available infantry models.

 

[raider75]

Ahhh

Oh well it would have been a nice concept. Did you guys make militia a more usefull type like core did (volksgrenadier)?

 

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No changes to militia. My idea was to introduce more models, but Keldor was against it, basically, because he thinks, that German militia was getting worse over time, not better.

 

[raider75]

I can only find version .37 and i see everyone talking about versions .37 and stuff...where can I get these newer versions, they are not on todayscoffee.com...and what is the AI researcher bug fix...do i need it for .37?

 

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I can only find version .37 and i see everyone talking about versions .37 and stuff...where can I get these newer versions, they are not on todayscoffee.com...

You are probably refering to the installer version, that one is only 0.37, but you can simply unpack v0.38 over it. There is a packed and an installer version (provided by KeldorKatarn), the packed one is always up to date. To keep track with the installer version, you need to unpack the latest packed version in your HIP directory.

and what is the AI researcher bug fix...do i need it for .37?

No, only 0.373 users do. I will remove it, too many people getting confused.

 

[raider75]

Thank You!!!!

Thanks Panther...I was really getting lost their for a second...Is there a way to ummm maybe get rid of the lack thier of graphics and replace them with something more exciting.

 

[raider75]

Ummmm

My game won't save what can I do to fix this?

 

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Is there a way to ummm maybe get rid of the lack thier of graphics and replace them with something more exciting.

You have done/installed this?

With installer (you have no HIP >= v0.37):
1)Installer
2)v0.373 Graphics
3)v0.374 Graphics
4)v0.38

But I would recommend to use the packed version (faster to install, lower likelyhood of errors/problems)

Without (fresh install):
1)v0.373 Graphics
2)v0.374 Graphics
3)v0.38

Sure you can apply other graphic mods after HIP is installed or remove graphics before you unpack the graphics part.

My game won't save what can I do to fix this?

Something must be wrong with the save game directory. Make sure you have

...\scenarios\save games

And have unpacked the files in the right place.

 

[Aki Mackensen]

I can only say that my first impressions on HIP, are very positive, I of course cannot speak about them all, cuz I only play Germany, and the changes made to things concerning other countries only intrest me in the way they affect the way AI performs or add some historical accuracy to the the game... What I can tell u is there´s already alot of that in mod... SOV plays ( or at least played somewhat better this time. I only made one game in HIP, and stiLL continues ) . I´ve tried to screen all changes that directly affected germany... But there´s so many ( The cheer quantity of litle changes is staggering ), some I understand and already seen happening others I´m still waiting some if they happened or are in effect i did´nt notice ( I´m sure that ignorance in the game mechanics and rules from my part do not help... )
And so What I need is to know if all changes are open to discussion here, because there´s so much I would like so see clarified on how it works what effects does it produce... Overall what do some things translate in game terms ). But I don´t want to flood the forum with stuff without knowing if this isn´t out of topic so... Just a few ones k ?

Maginot line hat happened there ?? didn´t notice anything is it an event ? How does it work what effects does it have ?

Czech forts... Same questions !!

Skoda!! UAU Great work !! is it interconnected with the the two divs of tanks ??

The Bismarck tirpitz, yamato ?? Is it an even what happens I started in 36 din´t notice anything aout it ....

So many other little details, very good ideas already there...I would like to know leave some of mine to your attention, please.

-Didn´t notice anything concerning atlantic wall (Land forts cheaper, something connected to the Todt organization maybe this would be very welcomed )

- DAK . I´ve seen a litle mention on that here in the forum... but how does it work? only if italy is an ally ? is it just a transport in human play ? Why nt create a ArmeeKorps name " Deutsche Afrika Korps " ?? with the correct divs appearing ?

- Is it possible to add some kind of sleep leader event ( I´m thinking about starting a thread on this subject ) to bring lower ranked officers to play ( some kind of promotion event )?? I would very much like to see this at least discussed about "if possible" details ( don´t have the right word in english

If some of these ideas was already discussed I apologize I, still haven´t seen where, so....Lastly a word on the guys who made this possible ! Thank you for all your colossal work it´s not easy...but be sure is well apreciated !

 

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I can only say that my first impressions on HIP, are very positive,

Great.

Maginot line hat happened there ?? didn´t notice anything is it an event ? How does it work what effects does it have ?

Forts are added there, but just one per province, symbolizing the last construction phase.

Czech forts... Same questions !!

The Czech forts were NOT completed at that time. The event gives forts, that represent that state. Forts are scripted, because they are so expensive and would screw early military production.

Skoda!! UAU Great work !! is it interconnected with the the two divs of tanks ??

Skoda was removed again, because Germany has better teams and does not need them. The two tank divs are there as event.

The Bismarck tirpitz, yamato ?? Is it an even what happens I started in 36 din´t notice anything aout it ....

They are there, visible only for the specific country. There are many, many events, which you do not see, because they use "AI_EVENT", making them invisible for other countries.

-Didn´t notice anything concerning atlantic wall (Land forts cheaper, something connected to the Todt organization maybe this would be very welcomed )

Human has to build on its own, the AI will only build, when it has enough military forces and can afford it. Those forts were not cheap

Ostwall 800.000.000 RM
Westwall 1.300.000.000 RM

Those real world prices already include the "Todt" factor.

- DAK . I´ve seen a litle mention on that here in the forum... but how does it work? only if italy is an ally ? is it just a transport in human play ? Why nt create a ArmeeKorps name " Deutsche Afrika Korps " ?? with the correct divs appearing ?

There was an event giving one mot div, but it was removed. Human can bring troops there, the AI should not, because this would create more confusion than it would do good.

- Is it possible to add some kind of sleep leader event ( I´m thinking about starting a thread on this subject ) to bring lower ranked officers to play ( some kind of promotion event )?? I would very much like to see this at least discussed about "if possible" details ( don´t have the right word in english

You can raise leader skill in an event, but you can not check his rank or skill before. So such a system would open up many exploits. I have also commented in your thread.

Keep on asking

 

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A follow up on the Indian Army

I just got Osprey's Elite 75 The Indian Army 1914-1947: The book has a great over veiw an some details. I'll the info that might be helpful
1] The site I gave you on the 1939 OOB seems to be very good. What it didn't tell you. In 1922 the army reorginized to 10 bn, regt. the 10th bn being training bn. It apears that the inter war years the army manitaned around 400,000 men but it doesn't go into details. There was a real fear the Russians were going to invade India through Afghanistan. That's why a strong deployment in the NW Fronitier, they also fought a rebal war from 1935-1937. India forces should be locked into place till Sept 1939. The debat on number of divisions the manpower was there if you want to place upwards to 12 divisions. But given the situation as explained in the book; The 1st, 2nd and 3rd divisions were HQ pre WWII the rest would be hidden an would be trigger; 4th & 5th Div. Sept 1939, 9th Div Sept 1940, 7th, 8th & 11th Div. Oct 1940 10th Div. Jan 1941, 6th Div. March 1941 the other came 42' or latter or you could just put a mobization event in.
2] Cavalery their were 7 bdes all were horse till after the war starts it doesn't give details but they went M3 Stuart and latter M4 Sherman probley lend least 1st Armoured Aust. 1940 redesignated 31st, in Dec. 1941, 2nd Armoured April 1941 redesignated 32nd, Dec. 1941.
Indian divisions should be upgraded last when WWII started most forces were 1918 vintage

 

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Excellent info. Currently HIP has 7 inf, with 17,000 * 7 = 119,000 combat troops, no HQ. 12 divs are reasonable for 400,000 men. I have reintroduced the original 12 . There were already 4 divs added in mobilization in Calcutta (model 2), those will be reduced to 2, 1918 model. The Indian divs will be locked until the UK is at war with a major power.

 

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RAF OoB 1936-1937

I was doing some checking a week ago ran across this site on RAF Squadrons

http://www.raf.mod.uk/squadrons/sqns_all.html

found it to be a great read. The RAF base works off squadrons 16 X 6 = 96 planes for a group so I ramdonly 6 squadrons for each groups under their commands. What I found out was the scope of the build up in 1936 & 1937 the groups that were short I looked at the dates of newly fromed squadrons till I had 6 squadrons per group [ Grp filled out date ] Put the month/year formed about 60% were formed at 25%, the rest it doesn't say.
RAF 1936 OoB
Figther Command
Nos. 1,2,3,4,13,16: Ftr. Group
Nos. 17,32,24,43,54,56: Ftr Group
Nos. 111: Group filled out March 1937; Ftr. Group
Bomber Command
Nos. 23,11,12,15,18,21: Tac Bomb Group
Nos. 25,34,38,57,114,26: Tac Bomb Group
Nos. 97,101,103,104,107,214: Tac Bomb Group
Nos. 7,9,10,35,58,99: Heavy Bomb Group
Nos. 40,102,207,215 Group filled out Dec. 1936: Heavy Bomb Group
Costal Command
Nos. 22,201,202,230 Group filled out Dec. 1936: Costal Group
MidEast Command
Nos. 74, 30,14,41,64,65: Ftr. Group
Nos. 6,29,33,39,55,84: Tac Bomb Group
Nos. 203,142,207,47,208: Tac Bomb Group
Nos. 45,70,216: Transport Group
Nos. 203.204,205,209,210 Group filled out Jan. 1937: Coslal Group
India Command
Nos. 27,28,31,60,20 Group filled out Oct. 1937: Tac Bomb Group
Far East Command
Nos. 36,100: Costal Group

Dates squadrons formed 1936 and 1937
1/36 No. 78 B
2/36 No. 98 B
6/36 No. 206 B
7/36 No. 49 B, No. 66 Ftr
8/36 No.83 B, No. 151 Ftr
9/36 No. 218 B, No. 46 Ftr
11/36 No. 166 Hv B
12/36 No. 223 Hv B, Nos. 42,228 NB
1/37 Nos. 52,108,144 B No. 224 NB
2/37 No. 63 B, No.72 Ftr
3/37 Nos. 44,51,226 B, Nos. 79,80,213 Ftr
4/37 Nos. 37,76 B
5/37 Nos. 50,62,113 B
6/37 Nos. 59,61,77,115,148,149,211 B
7/37 No. 90 B No. 73 Ftr
8/37 No. 50 B
10/37 No. 110 B
11/37 No 88 B

Groups to add: Sept 1936 1 Bomb Group,1 Bomb Group March 1937, 1 Bomb Group May 1937,1 Bomb Group June 1937, July 1937 No. 73 squadron wiil start another Figther Group
Hope this helps you out Panther G