Confirmed Holy Orders / Mercenaries never use MAA from traditions, only innovations

[zweihander]

Information​

I have verifed my game files (Steam only)​

Yes

I have disabled all mods​

Yes

I am running the latest game update​

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Summary​

Holy Orders / Mercenaries never use MAA from traditions, only innovations

Description​

I was wondering why so many mercenaries only use generic units. Norse Mercs don't use Varangian Veterans, Greek Mercs don't use Cataphracts, etc... Looking around it appears the only special MAA allowed are those from innovations, like War Elephants, Sahel Horsemen, Camels etc...
With holy orders, this becomes obvious-- usually the pagan holy order unit is Horse Archers, but instead we have generic units.

Steps to reproduce​

Look at all the merc companies-- do you see any tradition enabled MAA?
Make a Slovianskan Holy Order with a culture that has Horse Lords. It won't have Horse Archers.

Game Version​

1.9

Platform​

Windows

Additional Information​

Affected Feature​

• Gameplay
• Modding

Save Game​

Other Attachments​

 

[BudgetHedgehog]

Honestly, I'm surprised no-one else has noticed this or seems to mind. As I mentioned in the other thread, I can own several units of Konni and tradition-based MaA, but I can't hire any? Doesn't make sense, sorry.

 

[Loc_n_lol]

The way mercs pick their troops isn't great and very restrictive. Needs to be a lot more customizable, both in vanilla and for mods.

EDIT: I made a mod that restores innovations for cultural MAA, allowing mercs to use them once again https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2982475523

 

[zorianmax]

Wiki refers Holy orders to religions, and units related to religions. I know that Pallatini are not hirble becaue of no roman culture, but they are shown as Helenic type of an order. So I restored helenic religion, but still didn't get pallatines in my order. It was disapppointing.

 

[Polished knight]

Hello there! With your help, we have now confirmed the issue and added it to our database!