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Portugal is, in fact, the most difficult country in the game. Don't think being small will make others have mercy on Porto. Holland didn't in real history. ;)

what are the principles on the roster making process?
 
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Ulschmidt said:
what are the principles on the roster making process?

I tried to keep into consideration the player's initial choices, and talk to them where not possible. I would like to talk to you, too. Could you get on ICQ?
 
Ulschmidt said:
Portugal is, in fact, the most difficult country in the game. Don't think being small will make others have mercy on Porto. Holland didn't in real history. ;)

Pff, Holland was only able to win over Portugal thanks to Spain. We had to send soldiers to fight Spain's enemies but the bastards didnt do the same to us. And that is why Portugal broke from the union - again.

You might notice that after Portugal became indepedent we lost few, or none posessions at all to our enemies.
 
When Ego speaks , listen children. If anything you can get a nice alternate history novel out of it....
 
Seen said:
When Ego speaks , listen children. If anything you can get a nice alternate history novel out of it....

Alternate history novel... I cant remember hearing that Portugal lost any posession by war after 1668. You got evidence that i am mistaken?

Our colonies were granted independence, and we never fought against them (of course there were guerrilas during the 1960's but i dont consider that outright war).

In India, by 1961, our men were instructed to either defeat the invaders or die, but the cowards ran instead and gave Goa-Damão and Diu to the Indians just like that. I dont consider that a war either. We had about 3.000 men stationed there - once they saw more then 30.000 indians they just ran. It was more like a marathon to see who got into the transport boats faster.

And recently, we gave Macao to the Chinese, after having built an airport, a couple of bridges and some casinos. Our government is so... Kind... at least, for foreigners. In Portugal we still have to use roman bridges, but the chinese can have the best of the best... Ah yes... The wonders of Socialism... What they dont do to keep a good image. :p
 
ok guys, i finalised a roster.

Suggestions and complaints, if you have any, let's hear them.

Also, if two of you want to switch nations, go ahead.

Code:
[SIZE=3]ROSTER:

Fnuco 		FRA
Duque Alesandro	SPA
Mungojerrie	TUR
NightSream	POR
nobodyreal	ENG
National_Cause  SWE
Ulschmidt   	HAB
grabah 		RUS[/SIZE]
 
EGO, do you want to join as a NL maybe?
 
Fnuco said:
EGO, do you want to join as a NL maybe?

Not interested one single bit on the 1492 vanila scenario... Totaly... unbalanced. Sorry.
 
BurningEGO said:
Not interested one single bit on the 1492 vanila scenario... Totaly... unbalanced. Sorry.
who is too weak and who is too strong?
judging by our last attempts poland is overpowered in vanilla, oe and specially spain.
eu2 is not balanced period.
some countries start bigger some start smaller, some are richer some have more leaders some less. how does changing balance in favor of one country and against other changes it?

if we have to i can agree to pe1492 scenario..
are there any other mp scenarios at all (on default map) :confused:
 
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Well, I just had a look at France's manpower last game and i got scared. Its even more MP then in drake 1453's.

And no, poland isnt unbalanced. :p

I would actually say they are pretty weak.
 
I think PE's got less manpower and less base taxes, that makes maneuver and strategy vital at the beginning.
 
BurningEGO said:
And no, poland isnt unbalanced. :p

I would actually say they are pretty weak.

yep, my thought, I'm surprised Fnuco survived a gang of 4 as Poland twice.
 
exactly. and not even to mention that in both our games france didn't looked so good at all, and 'on paper' they were favorites. i bet it will be totally different france in this game. my sympathy to spain and austria.
and we ended both of campaigns because most of the players thought that spain was too strong :confused:
skill of the players is biggest unbalancing factor here. no scenario will fix that.
if we had boosted poland last time fnuco would attempt wc :)
it will all come down to players maintaining balance at the end anyway...
did i mentioned how good sweden was? :)

and please everyone once we start don't chicken out like last two times.
if someone gets too uber we'll gang him ;)

edit: and as far as im concerned we can play pe scenario, but then i don't want to hear anything about how russia got too big.
 
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BurningEGO said:
Well, I just had a look at France's manpower last game and i got scared. Its even more MP then in drake 1453's.

And no, poland isnt unbalanced. :p

I would actually say they are pretty weak.

We can also start 1419 (did I tell you before? :rofl: ). So England will stop France for a time.

You can also join and help us stoping France in 1492.

On the other hands, I think ontime rewards should be related with monthly income. 200D can be few money for a country as Spain or OE but a lot of money for a little country (Porto, BB, ...). So, I propose to set 1/2 times monthly income as ontime reward. This way, ontime reward is automatically adecuated at any age (increases with developement).
 
While I agree with the principle, this proposal might actually benefit countries like Portugal, since they can have high monthly incomes from trade, while the bulk of OE's or Russia's income often comes from census taxes.