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The map CAN be modded, right?

Theoretically, how big a map could this game handle?
 
i've read other posts saying that the map size could be modded... but none knows for sure how that would work out. One thing you could do would be to just minimize everything. This would give space to all directions for more territories, and then just keeping the zoom ok and you could play like normal... but i dunno, ask the pros ^^
 
We are currently working on improving the map as the Rome Improved Map Project. However once we have improved the map we will try to expand it further towards the Indus and maybe into Arabia as well. Check out our current progress (and downloadable version) in our thread (see signature).
 
Keep in mind that bigger map means more factions, so more calculations for the processor. This won't be a problem for the first 40-80 years, but later the speed would drop dramatically.

I liked the "Total Realism" and "Europa Barbarossum" mods for the Rome: Total war game, but in the end i abandoned thyem. Why? Because compared to the vanilla, it took a lot more time for each turn to be calculated....
 
DesertSnow said:
Keep in mind that bigger map means more factions, so more calculations for the processor. This won't be a problem for the first 40-80 years, but later the speed would drop dramatically.

I liked the "Total Realism" and "Europa Barbarossum" mods for the Rome: Total war game, but in the end i abandoned thyem. Why? Because compared to the vanilla, it took a lot more time for each turn to be calculated....
Well the game is already quite fast (faster than EUIII) so I think that speed won't be a real bottleneck for adding extra provinces and expanding the map.
 
So if I wanted to mod in Asia (including China), would that be possible?

(I have a pretty powerful computer, so performance really isn't an issue).
 
Also consider that as the game goes on you have fewer factions as existing ones gobble up independent ones. But I've never experienced anything problematic about speed with Rome, I'm not too worried. Van Diemen is indeed correct about the Improved Map Mod. I'd like to get more depth along the Red Sea on both banks, as well as all of Persia and the shores of the Caspian, a bit more north of the Caucasus, then down to the Indus. Imagine something much more like the Crusader Kings map in general, without so much of Russia.
 
Well I'd be happy with a map that reaches to the border of China, so it would be possible to make all sorts of mods from 500BC all the way to 476AD and the fall of the Western Empire (Imagine pillaging Huns forcing tribes west into the civil war plagued and geographically split Roman Empire!).

I'm sure others would prefer it go all the way to China's eastern border.
 
Now we're envisioning maps of the entire Eurasian landmass...lol, I can just imagine all the arguments about placement & naming that would generate...
 
battlecry said:
Now we're envisioning maps of the entire Eurasian landmass...lol, I can just imagine all the arguments about placement & naming that would generate...
Well I think that going as far as China is a bit too much. Because written records are becoming much more difficult to find. Incorporating India would on itself we a monstrous task, thus the Indus is on itself reasonable border for the map.
 
I've started on this...

I've been piecing together a gigantic map stretching all the way to the island of Japan. Although some provinces in the steppes of Turkestan and the old Soviet Union are difficult to name, I am quite surprised by the number of sources available online - even for the period I am focused on (600BC). There is always going to be SOME degree of improvization when drawing borders since no REAL borders ussually existed anyhow. We're not drawing maps for Encyclopedia Britannica here, so a best guess is often a perfectly good solution, in my opinion. I certainly hope I don't start a war becuase someone reads my EU Rome map and sees that his ancestors had be moved off a piece of land 2600 years ago.:)

P.S. And if you complain I will sieze more of your land and give it to your enemies :rofl:
 
I am under the impression that the resolution of province.bmp must be 1960 x 1228 pixels. I could be mistaken, but that would pretty much limit how big a map you could make, if you still want the provinces to be clickable.
 
Van Diemen said:
Well I think that going as far as China is a bit too much. Because written records are becoming much more difficult to find. Incorporating India would on itself we a monstrous task, thus the Indus is on itself reasonable border for the map.
i would only extend the map to the size of that of Crusader Kings, but even then have more of scandinavia and 'russia' be PTI

instead of increasing the size of the map as in increasing the region it adds, i would more like to have the current map size doubled in the same region (i mean Crete as example would be double size of that of now), and only add new places to the lower nile (just along the nile, what would be a very good devendable place with bordering PTI) and a tiny bit more of parthia
goobermaster said:
Imagine managing governors over all those provinces w/o autoassign.... :wacko: !
an event can be written to add governors to provinces where there aren't any, that is kinda autoassign already ;)
 
Question

OK, heres something that baffles me. Europas III has 1700 land and sea provinces and Rome has about 325 by my quick count. When I bought the game I expected another great map and for some reason this time they skimped out. One thing that I loved about this game from the time of its first release was the amazing scope it offered and they seem to be moving away from this.

But what baffles me is this. I remember reading that the map size for Europas III was smaller than the Rome map in terms of pixel size. How did they ever squeeze so many provinces into such a tiny map. I would love to make my new map with 1700 provinces but the only way I can seem to do this is to expand the pixel size of the map to a frighteningly large (and probably unworkable) degree.

Any thoughts?