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I'm playing as England in the GC and I'm at war with Spain. I'm doing real well in my war in the New World and I have taken a lot of their colonies.

I would like to see the Spanish government collapse so I can pocket my conquests. What factors lead to an enemy government falling? If I stay at war with Spain for long enough will this cause their government to collapse?
 
'twould be quicker to offer them peace and *ask* for some of their provinces. (Especially as you have been doing so well).
It could well be that *they* have made you an offer and you have missed it. Unless you have set it as a "pop up" then there would have been an icon in the top right hand corner for you to click on.
It is easily missed.
I suggest that you go to Menu/Option/Message Settings and take the time to set how you are alerted to events.
If this isnt what you mean then please post back....

post back anyway ...
 
He's probably taken over about eighty-six Spanish colonies in the americas, so he wants to settle for a few more than three. :D

Governments fall when a large proportion of their provinces, normally including the capital, succumb to rebel and/or enemy forces. The rebels are the most common perpetrators, although I have seen the odd collapse without rebels being present. Your best hope is to invade the Iberian peninsula and try to take Madrid, and then just sit there occupying it and hope for the best. If war exhaustion is a bigger problem for them than it is for you, then you should eventually bag the lot.
 
Heyesey:

Have you seriously seen a gov fall with no rebels anywhere? I thought they were a must.

I just benefited from my second. When civ war broke out in Spain, immediately declared war and tried to snatch as many non-rebel provinces as I could.
 
I also thought that only rebels could make it.
If more then half the enemy is controlled my rebels not neccesary including capital is what i thought.
 
I saw a government fall once without rebels but I couldn't determine exactly why.

One of the best ways to prompt the fall of a government is to convert the nation by force in a peace treaty. They will most likely reconvert and their stability will drop to -3. Wait five years and do it again, and again.

After so much religious upheaval, your VP's will be sky high and their country will be one giant revolt. That's when a fall of the gov. is most likely and you get to keep all the goodies.

Now this strategy is very difficult to pull off. I have tried and succeeded on only a few occasions. The bad news is that you are probably going to have to give up all of the colonies you've taken from Spain and settle for a disappointing peace.
 
Originally posted by Admiral Yi
Heyesey:

Have you seriously seen a gov fall with no rebels anywhere? I thought they were a must.

Hessen, having conquered two provinces to the north (Saxony? Hannover? I forget) was entirely occupied by me, and the government collapsed before I could send the peace treaty. So I picked up two provinces buckshy, but I wasn't given the chance to annex them and take the third.