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S0ny B1ack

S0ny B1ack

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I just got my hands on crusader kings (and DV with the latest beta patch), because of the talking about a possible sequel.

And i have to say I love this game. I started my first game (after watching the "tutorial" on youtube) as the duchy of Vidin and I have a fun game(I early left the Byzantium empire and I have now two provinces of my own and 7 vassals-for now I try to become King of Serbia (just a few more provinces to create the title)), but now in 1100 the Seljuk turks have taken over most of Byzantium (which is mostly reduced to Greece) and I have no idea what to do when they reach my regions, is it possible to keep them from attacking me, or will it soon be game over?

Also I noticed that Spain is almost entirely owned by muslim states, is this normal in this game or am I only having a weird game, where cristians and orthodox are annihilated by muslims?
 
I don't usually see them spread past Byzantion since many of the European territories revolt. Although once I had the Duke of Armenia take Sjaelland.
 
S0ny B1ack said:
I just got my hands on crusader kings (and DV with the latest beta patch), because of the talking about a possible sequel.

And i have to say I love this game. I started my first game (after watching the "tutorial" on youtube) as the duchy of Vidin and I have a fun game(I early left the Byzantium empire and I have now two provinces of my own and 7 vassals-for now I try to become King of Serbia (just a few more provinces to create the title)), but now in 1100 the Seljuk turks have taken over most of Byzantium (which is mostly reduced to Greece) and I have no idea what to do when they reach my regions, is it possible to keep them from attacking me, or will it soon be game over?

Also I noticed that Spain is almost entirely owned by muslim states, is this normal in this game or am I only having a weird game, where cristians and orthodox are annihilated by muslims?
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The taifas of Iberia usually crush the christian spanish realms. One of the main reasons is that the Jimenez brothers hate each other and have claims on each other. So once Castille goes to war against the berber muslims, his brother will stab him in the back .. and vice versa.

After a few years the taifas will have consolidated into 2 or 3 realms, and they are then way too powerful for the small christian realms.

Eventually a crusade will be called against Burgos, and half the peninsula ends up i french, german or croatian hands :)
 
TempestDK said:
The taifas of Iberia usually crush the christian spanish realms. One of the main reasons is that the Jimenez brothers hate each other and have claims on each other. So once Castille goes to war against the berber muslims, his brother will stab him in the back .. and vice versa.

After a few years the taifas will have consolidated into 2 or 3 realms, and they are then way too powerful for the small christian realms.

Eventually a crusade will be called against Burgos, and half the peninsula ends up i french, german or croatian hands :)
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They stab each other in the back and the number of vassals they have only makes things worse.
 
Unless the war between Castile and Leon ends relatively quickly or the war doesn't happen at all. In a recent game I have been playing, the King of Leon died childless, leaving it all to Castile...of course the King of Castile died without children and Urraca inherited. She proceeded (with my help as France) to conquer the Peninsula, creating for herself Portugal and Andalucia (DVIP), while I took Aragon.
 
Well maybe I stand a slightly chance against them (but as someone posted their European provinces rebels quickly, so they might never reach me directly), I just became King of Croatia (it wasn't even intended, but after I slowly expanded my duchy of Vidin I got a claim on the title of the king, but I wasn't ever strong enough to try the war. They must have been in a devastating war (probably because of a crusade), I noticed that their manpower (I checked it occasionally) was lower then mine and I declared war - together with the army of 3 of my vassals and my own I defeated them and their only vassal, who joined in - the duke of slavonia (during the war I grabbed his title as the count of Krizevci) and with 5000 soldiers besieging his castles he was quickly out of the war and Krizevci (with another 3000 soldiers) mine, then everything went very fast and I became KING :D )

EDIT:
It doubled the size of my realm and tripled the income and manpower :D
 
I have an very noobish question: What is with the prestige and piety of my successor will he get mine, or will he only have his or is it something between (he has quite some prestige, since I made him Prince of Wallachia after I became King, but its still less then I have)?

Sorry if this is in the FAQs, but after a quick readthrough I havent noticed it.
 
He only has his prestige and piety. He will inherit your titles and your treasury, but the rest he has to earn on his own ;)

~Hawk
 
The Seljuks are not to be feared, if you can raise a decent size army you should be fine. The larger they get the closer they get to collapse. They will eventually splinter. As for the Iberian Peninsula, just wait, it will be conquered by catholics in due time. Spain either unites against the muslims and goes on to unify or it fights amonsgt itself and collapse to be reconquered later on.
 
In DVIP, the Seljuks don't advance past Thrace, usually the Byzantine realm is compact enough at that point that they can stay together and fight. The Iberian rulers tend to fall to Muslim kingdoms from North Africa combining with the states in the South, but then France comes in.

In vanilla, the Seljuks never seem to make it onto Byzantion without getting promptly pushed off by the Byzantines or crusaders.
 
SeedSnatcher said:
In DVIP, the Seljuks don't advance past Thrace, usually the Byzantine realm is compact enough at that point that they can stay together and fight. The Iberian rulers tend to fall to Muslim kingdoms from North Africa combining with the states in the South, but then France comes in.

In vanilla, the Seljuks never seem to make it onto Byzantion without getting promptly pushed off by the Byzantines or crusaders.
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Exactly. In my coop DVIP game me (King of Ireland) and my friend (Duke of Moray Heir to the throne of Scotland) had to re-arrange priorities and push plans forward because France collapsed, lost all of it's northern regions, and rather than reclaim them has begun conquering Muslim Spain, which has helped the spanish kingdoms recover, so we have launched our own invasion of Iberia to compete in a sort of landgrab for the muslim territories.

So, the lesson here for the TC is that Spain usually falls, but will always come back into catholic control.
 
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