How to get 3 provinces from a peace

[KaiserIsak]

The title says it all. How do i get 3 provinces from a peace treaty.
I played as france, and conquered all the spanish possesions in the lowlands, franche comte, the balears, valencia, rousillon, gerona, andalusia, toledo and castile. But still they would´nt accept three provinces. I think they should accept three provinces when they are soo heavily beaten.

 

[unmerged(1095)]

Its all to do with Stars and Gravestones!

The FAQs at:-
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will give you more info.

Have fun..........

 

[unmerged(548)]

I think they should accept three provinces

Too bad it's not your decision then

Anyway, if you take ALL their cities they will always accept 3 provinces (AFAIK, this is how it works with minors but mayby major countires are a bit more stubborn).

 

[hjarg]

And conquer some more and capital. They might offer you 3 then. But in most of the cases, not the ones you want.

 

[KaiserIsak]

I have their capital, and does i have more then half of their provinces. They should give away three provinces when they are so heavily defeated.

 

[unmerged(548)]

i have more then half of their provinces

Your more then halfway there then, greate. Now take the rest and you can have that extra one province you need so desperately ...

 

[unmerged(1598)]

In my GCs, the major powers always reject my demands for 3 provinces. However, from time to time, they offer me 3 provinces. So my recommendation is to hold on to thir provinces and wait until they offer 3 provinces.

 

[BiB]

It'll most likely not be ur desired choices though.

 

[unmerged(598)]

The 8 star peace is available for majors as well I think. You can ask for 3 provinces and money if you conquer all a nation's territory (including colonial cities which makes it very hard to achieve)

If there are 3 cities you really want, siege those, then take the capital, sit back and wait. If then you destroy their largest army and don't let them have any sieges where they have a chance of success they will usually agree quite quickly.

If the nation has several religions they will usually offer you three provinces more rapidly. Or attack them when they are already in the middle of a long war. War weary AI nations are much more obliging to your offers.

 

[unmerged(410)]

The refusal to cede 3 provinces is of course very sound politics. Your people (and your treasury) will grow weary of the war and may force you into accepting a mere 2 provinces in order to bring about a much desired peace.
A quick campaign and 2 new provinces is almost always more profitable than trying to get the most out of everything - and failing more often than not.

 

[BiB]

Originally posted by Chyron0
The refusal to cede 3 provinces is of course very sound politics. Your people (and your treasury) will grow weary of the war and may force you into accepting a mere 2 provinces in order to bring about a much desired peace.
A quick campaign and 2 new provinces is almost always more profitable than trying to get the most out of everything - and failing more often than not.

I have to agree. I always go for quick peaces (not that I cabn't last the distance, it just isn't worth it) of, if possible, 2 provinces and some ducats to cover some expenses.

 

[unmerged(812)]

Here a summary of my experience:

If you ask for 3 provinces, you must have at least 6 stars more than you have gravestones (just to state the obvious again).

The more stars you leave unclaimed by any demand, the higher your probability of acceptance is. The probability for a peace offer with 'no stars left' is actually quite low if you are the one asking for peace. But you will get offers of three provinces from your enemy at least once.

The best, but hardest way is to conquer all cities of a country (tradeposts don't count). This gives you 8 stars and a decent probability of acceptance if you ask for peace and the provinces you want. You will never get the capital province with anything but an annexation, or not at all if your enemy is a playable country.
Of course, if you conquer all provinces and your enemy is a minor, it's usually better to go for a complete annexation if you're after territory.

If you cannot conquer all cities, to get three provinces of first or second priority, conquer five provinces with cities of 700+ size and the capital. Then wait until the peace offers come. Think hard before rejecting anything. Peace offers will get worse if you do nothing between them.
Avoid conquering small cities (<700) because these will always be included in any peace offer by the enemy. Immediately burn any trade posts you get (of course, unless you actually want them) because as soon as you control one, the enemy will make a peace offer including this trade post.

If you want a certain valuable province rather than random territory (for example, a COT), chances are than the enemy will never offer it in a peace treaty, and never accept a peace including it unless you leave stars unclaimed. In these cases, from any point of view, it's more feasible to be content with two provinces.

Other factors influence the probability of acceptance as well: if your diplomacy value is rather high despite the war, the probability seems to be a bit higher. A separate peace is always harder to get than a peace with an alliance leader - the difference may be equal to a star or two.