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What function of parliament was a European thing? Every society had forums with more or less power where those with social influence could petition their rulers/lewders
To explain some terms 'Parliament' is the term Paradox is using to describe the 'Diet' mechanic being brought in from EUIV, whereas prior Diet and Parliament were two seperate mechanics. Parliaments (as we understand them in the political, not mechanical sense) seem to just be a more in-depth sub-type of this expanded Diet mechanic, but all forms of Diet are being called Parliament by the devs.

Since most societies had some sort of government function where the estates of the realm would meet and argue issues, most tags have some form of the mechanic at the start.
 
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What function of parliament was a European thing? Every society had forums with more or less power where those with social influence could petition their rulers/lewders


Parliament was unique to Europe. Read up where the first parliaments happened in the middle ages. We are talking about parliament of the three estates. Not of any general form of assembly.

Assemblies existed in all societies. Duh. Thank you for enlighting us
 
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Parliament was unique to Europe. Read up where the first parliaments happened in the middle ages. We are talking about parliament of the three estates. Not of any general form of assembly.

Assemblies existed in all societies. Duh. Thank you for enlighting us
So you're saying political bodies of landholders, clergy, and business were a uniquely European historical phenomenon?

I have to laugh bc I'll be rude otherwise
 
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So you're saying political bodies of landholders, clergy, and business were a uniquely European historical phenomenon?

I have to laugh bc I'll be rude otherwise
I presume he's referring to when diets are held which are organized according to the medieval European concept of the Three Estates.


Of course as you say nearly all the world has aristocrats, merchants, and priests. But their specific organization in this way with pre determined allotments at diets is as far as I know a European thing. I'm not saying 'interest groups on other continents had no official say in their realms, and were not present at meetings' but rather 'the specific setup of the 3 estates meeting in this general way is European in origin'.
 
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I presume he's referring to when diets are held which are organized according to the medieval European concept of the Three Estates.


Of course as you say nearly all the world has aristocrats, merchants, and priests. But their specific organization in this way with pre determined allotments at diets is as far as I know a European thing. I'm not saying 'interest groups on other continents had no official say in their realms, and were not present at meetings' but rather 'the specific setup of the 3 estates meeting in this general way is European in origin'.
I believe (almost) all larger societies had groups / classes, which shared sbd/or competed for power in their standard way of councel.
--> that is a parliament gameplay-wise.

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I know, I know there are tendencies
- to see the same pattern everywhere
- to say my or the dominsnt way is special and never reached.

But sometimes generalisations, which might be slightly off, are ok.

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Finally, your wiki-article to me basically shows that its topic does not exist, because of all examples given only the first one had 3 estates and everyone else had 2, 4, other other. Also the description is vague to the extreme.

Of course this is not meant totally honest. Calling (parts of) societies "estates" is helpful.

But just as the Holy Roman Empire was neither of it, the 3 estates of Europe, were not 3, ill defined and not exclusive to Europe.
 
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I presume he's referring to when diets are held which are organized according to the medieval European concept of the Three Estates.


Of course as you say nearly all the world has aristocrats, merchants, and priests. But their specific organization in this way with pre determined allotments at diets is as far as I know a European thing.
You're describing the Mali Gbara here with 4 estates: soldiery, high nobility, priests, and craftspeople

I'm not saying 'interest groups on other continents had no official say in their realms, and were not present at meetings' but rather 'the specific setup of the 3 estates meeting in this general way is European in origin'.
If you read the link you posted it specifically notes that different countries addressed different numbers of estates. If we allow for systems as open as the English 2 estate system with landholders and everyone else then plenty of elected and hereditary bodies through history served an identical purpose
 
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