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Regarding Dipolmacy, I've found that focussing efforts on a half the electors works well.
Regarding Dipolmacy, I've found that focussing efforts on a half the electors works well.
Kewl!
Thanks guys! I just haven't been spending enough cash apparently. With all the techs maxed out, buying the Imperial crown should be a snap.
Also, there seems to be some disagreement about what constitutes the HRE - whether it is the ever-changing area bounded in red on the religion map, or the specific provinces listed as the HRE in the region lists. Anyone know for sure?
The real question is - do I need to butter up the French or not? By the red line method, the answer is no, but by the region method, then it seems to be yes if they end up holding France-comte, Lorraine, etc (as they tend to do.) Any definitive answer?
Thanks guys! I just haven't been spending enough cash apparently. With all the techs maxed out, buying the Imperial crown should be a snap.
Also, there seems to be some disagreement about what constitutes the HRE - whether it is the ever-changing area bounded in red on the religion map, or the specific provinces listed as the HRE in the region lists. Anyone know for sure?
The real question is - do I need to butter up the French or not? By the red line method, the answer is no, but by the region method, then it seems to be yes if they end up holding France-comte, Lorraine, etc (as they tend to do.) Any definitive answer?
Re: Kewl!
You definitely do NOT need to butter up the French. They do not get a vote in the HRE election. Only Elector Counts get to vote (if you hold your pointer over the various states inside the HRE in the Political Map, it will tell you who is an Elector). France never gets a vote. Nor does Spain. Nor do the Papal States. Nor does Poland.
As far as which is the HRE, I think the answer is the red line, but if you get a Mission assigned to you such as 'No France in the HRE' then the answer is those provinces listed in the region list.
You definitely do NOT need to butter up the French. They do not get a vote in the HRE election. Only Elector Counts get to vote (if you hold your pointer over the various states inside the HRE in the Political Map, it will tell you who is an Elector). France never gets a vote. Nor does Spain. Nor do the Papal States. Nor does Poland.
As far as which is the HRE, I think the answer is the red line, but if you get a Mission assigned to you such as 'No France in the HRE' then the answer is those provinces listed in the region list.
Re: Re: Kewl!
I don't think that is true. I am fairly sure my HRE provinces as the papal states get the elector bit when I hover over them. It is the provinces, not the state, who are the electors (aren't they?).
I am fairly sure something got buggered in the last patch (unless there is a rule which forbids the Pope as emporer.
My situation:
I (papal states) have conquored all of Italy, Austria and the Balkans, and a bit of Germany, so I own about a third of the HRE provinces (maybe a bit less). The rest is owned by Brandenburg, Saxony, Thuringen (sp?), Sweden (they have Holstein) and Poland (not sure about this one but I think they have one of the eastern provinces. (The Dutch are also encrouching, but are not HRE, and anyway are great friends of Rome.)
I am in an alliance with Brandenburg, Saxony and Sweden, and they all have relation >+150 with me and all have -200 with Spain (we keep fighting them). Poland is about +50 with me and Thuringen is -150 (allied with Spain) but is only one province.
So why do my allies keep electing Spain as HRE????? It just doesn't make sense - we seem to be almost premanently at war with them and this allows Spain to walk all over our territory in the few times we are at peace!!
This has to be a bug !!!??
Maybe Paradox could comment on this? Maybe it has some obscure reason?
I don't think that is true. I am fairly sure my HRE provinces as the papal states get the elector bit when I hover over them. It is the provinces, not the state, who are the electors (aren't they?).
I am fairly sure something got buggered in the last patch (unless there is a rule which forbids the Pope as emporer.
My situation:
I (papal states) have conquored all of Italy, Austria and the Balkans, and a bit of Germany, so I own about a third of the HRE provinces (maybe a bit less). The rest is owned by Brandenburg, Saxony, Thuringen (sp?), Sweden (they have Holstein) and Poland (not sure about this one but I think they have one of the eastern provinces. (The Dutch are also encrouching, but are not HRE, and anyway are great friends of Rome.)
I am in an alliance with Brandenburg, Saxony and Sweden, and they all have relation >+150 with me and all have -200 with Spain (we keep fighting them). Poland is about +50 with me and Thuringen is -150 (allied with Spain) but is only one province.
So why do my allies keep electing Spain as HRE????? It just doesn't make sense - we seem to be almost premanently at war with them and this allows Spain to walk all over our territory in the few times we are at peace!!
This has to be a bug !!!??
Maybe Paradox could comment on this? Maybe it has some obscure reason?
Only the 'German' states get a vote, none of the Netherlands, Italian states or Helvetia.
Do you have to be a Catholic nation to be elected?
I have the same problem with Spain getting the crown all the time.
I have the same problem with Spain getting the crown all the time.
One thing I noticed last night was that the states I take in the HRE are members but not electors. They seem to lose their elector status on being conquored. Was this also true historically?
Never-the-less, all the electors (there aren't many of them now) are my allies with great relations and still elect Spain, our enemy.
Could badboy be a factor?
Never-the-less, all the electors (there aren't many of them now) are my allies with great relations and still elect Spain, our enemy.
Could badboy be a factor?
U have to be some sort of catholic to get elected.
There were only 7 electors really and they changed thruout time.
There were only 7 electors really and they changed thruout time.
That makes sense. Austria isn,t Catholic and I have whipped most of the german states...