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I should have tried the open Beta, I know, my mistake and I paid for it. :D

So basically I installed my preorder about 3 hours agao and played for 2 and a half hours straight, and I am pretty much bored to death already.

Don't get me wrong, what is in the game is OK, it's just that there is simply not much to do in EIC and I can't stand any more the absolute simplistic trade system, if you can actually call that a system.

As already hinted in a few articles and on the forums, all you do is buy and sell goods and it's not even exiting trade like in Patrician.
And not even that you have to do, since you can simply chose autotrade, sit back and wait for something else to happen...which doesen't.

The only exiting/interesting part are the naval battles, which are suppose to be complementary. But if you really concentrate on the main part of the game, the economic trade simulation, well the game completly failed in my opinion. There is nothig in there, not even closely, that makes a decent trade simulation and economic game.

To me it feels like playing a casual arcade game for EUR 5.99. There is absolutely no detail in the economic system. It is so simple that I actually ask myself in the first 10 minutes of the game, if I have missed some hidden part of the game I haven't found out about yet. :rofl: But nothing was revealed and all there is, is a very bland trade system.

This is my first game I bought from Paradox that I complain about and that with good reason. From all that makes a good economic and trade simulation game, EIC is at the far end of my list.
 
I think it gets more intressting if you play it longer. I readed several reviews and they all say that it gets frigging hard later on, so you realy need to do some nice trades to get your heavy ship of the line etc. That you need to build warehouses and purchase stuff in advance etc

could you tell more about the naval battles? what do you like most/worst? Are the battles realistic or just another "no hitpoints left, it sinks now" game? Is it like Empire Total War naval battles?

Do you need wood and stuff to build ships or just money? Is the AI challenging?

still have to wait around 12 hours for steam version. 6 before i can start downloading it and another 6 for the transfer
 
naval battles are OK, almost like Empire. Though the graphics/effects in Empire are a bit better, not by much though.

What I like in EIC Battles is:

- Better boarding/including Marines in EIC
- more Ralistic Ship handling (though there a few realistic mods now for Empire that even simulate it better than EIC)
- You can only command up to 5 ships, which is positive, since everything above that and I always loose the overview in Empire.

What Empire is better at:

- Damage effects and models are better done
- sourrounding sea is nicely modeled with different weather effects (in EIC it seems you always fight in rough seas)
 
naval battles are OK, almost like Empire. Though the graphics/effects in Empire are a bit better, not by much though.

What I like in EIC Battles is:

- Better boarding/including Marines in EIC
- more Ralistic Ship handling (though there a few realistic mods now for Empire that even simulate it better than EIC)
- You can only command up to 5 ships, which is positive, since everything above that and I always loose the overview in Empire.

What Empire is better at:

- Damage effects and models are better done
- sourrounding sea is nicely modeled with different weather effects (in EIC it seems you always fight in rough seas)

thanks for the answer

Well, i hope it isnt that bad...i love playing anno 1404 and allways wanted to do more ship battles so i thought EIC would be nice for me.

How is the damage calculated? is it just like that each cannon does 2 damage and a ship has 50 hitpoints or something like this? Are there any critical hits or devestating ones?
 
well it surely is random since the first battle I tried was a 96 gun SoL against the smaller 40 something gun and he just blew me to bits in a straight line fight. Tried it again and it was the other way around. Looks like someone spilled a few tons of tar on your ship the moment it gets damaged as well.
 
well it surely is random since the first battle I tried was a 96 gun SoL against the smaller 40 something gun and he just blew me to bits in a straight line fight. Tried it again and it was the other way around. Looks like someone spilled a few tons of tar on your ship the moment it gets damaged as well.

thats pretty weird because a SOL is damn expensive...you need to pay 3 times the price of a ship to build it the first time and a SOL should allways win against a frigatte. Maybe the frigatte scored 2-3 critical hits?

How do ships sink? i hope they dont sink in like 2 seconds like in most naval combat games...in empire it sometimes took 20+ seconds till a big ship fully sunk
 
Well the one sinking ship I looked at when it went down looked rather nice tbh, went bow first with the aft sticking up. Anyways that fight was just plain weird guess my double amount of guns just didn't want to hit since the times each ship fired were probably the same but I just went twice as fast or so that time.
 
Well the one sinking ship I looked at when it went down looked rather nice tbh, went bow first with the aft sticking up. Anyways that fight was just plain weird guess my double amount of guns just didn't want to hit since the times each ship fired were probably the same but I just went twice as fast or so that time.

I think you get some numbers like hull and sail damage when your ship is hit...it could be that your 100+ guns just missed while the 40 one aimed like a sniper :p

1 hour to wait till unlock than 4-5 hours for downloading. Do you know if these soldiers/crew on your ships are actually your crew or just a fake one like in empire? I also wonder if ships can catch fire or if you can hit the gunpowder magazine like in empire = BOOM
 
Didn't try any boarding and I'm trying to figure out where my damned Pirate Bay addon is on Impulse instead of playing atm but at least the crew died on that sinking ship if I saw correctly but otherwise I guess they are puppets. That ondeck cam had some major clipping issues in a stormy weather as well which is the only view you can get a good look at them so I didn't really spend a long time in it considering I was inside the ship over half the time.
 
Well the one sinking ship I looked at when it went down looked rather nice tbh, went bow first with the aft sticking up. Anyways that fight was just plain weird guess my double amount of guns just didn't want to hit since the times each ship fired were probably the same but I just went twice as fast or so that time.

Well, there's a lot that could be wrong in your battle tactic: wrong ammo types with your ship out of range, too broad damage arc, bad aiming in direct command mode or relying too much on RTS mode's auto battles. Mastering direct command with proper timing in firing is a must in order to succeed in battles. Practice practice, young padawan...