Kanitatlan said:
Another idea: setup Vichy really fast, then declare on Vichy, you will take a dissent hit for the declaration on a facist country but it will definetly speed things up!
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Another idea: setup Vichy really fast, then declare on Vichy, you will take a dissent hit for the declaration on a facist country but it will definetly speed things up!
Flashblade said:
This is a sensible idea which I obviously haven't thought about properly. I did play a test game where I Vichyed France and then investigated if there was any way of cancelled the puppet status. Obviously there ought to be a gap between the Vichy event and the Puppet event where I can declare war but what happens when the make puppet event triggers anyway (it is triggered by Vichy simply existing).
There's only one way to find out.....
Drawing French out of Maginot
Although this took place under more "normal historical circumtances" (some time in 1939) i guess it is still an applicable strategy for drawing France out of the maginot. (actually it is probably easier achieved the earlier you set it up...)
As I recall it, it was my first 1.06c game, so bear with me if I miss out on some details. (game v.hard /fur. playing rather historically as Germay up to app. 1939.)
The strategy is to allow a front being set up in Germany.Simply let France wander two provinces into germany (there should be one province between them and the MagL. Here you should contain any further progress with a the maximum number of vanilla inf you could spare from the fighting in northern France.
Blitzt through france from behind, and attack the now empty maginot line (need I say speed is of the essense - use your fastest available units-and hold the land with slow moving units). The blitz into the northern provinces of France should start (after taking the critical Dutch and Belgian province don't bother to defeat any more dutch or Belgian troops than needed, they are easily finished when France falls, and most important they do not seem to counterattack). I cannot recall The map of Belgium, but I seem to remember, that Belgium should be allowed to keep their eastern province in order for the two zone buffer to the MagL to be intact.
When i did this France had a few divisions retreated from inner france to the lower maginot line zone (from my Blitz), but they were out of org, and soon retreated into Germany (held by France) Time a counteroffensive which occopy the forces in their newly occupied German zones as soon as your Blitz moves into the empty zones west of Maginot)
After this France is finished.
I didn't bother to take Paris before after the fall of the Maginot line, but I did make some skin-attacks on both Paris and the western French provinces to keep their forces from moving too much around.
the Trick is really to allow France & the allies to move forward, thus abandoning the MagLine and setting up a front i Germany instead.
As I said I don't remember all the details, but I guess you get the picture.
Using the two parameters of falling back and Blitz, this is the fastest full occupation of France I have yet achieved, and since the rest of the allies are easily rounded up I only lost a minimum of MP in my divisions.
I call this tactic the "Scorched earth of Germany" - why should only the russians be allowed
(quote is added after my original post)Kanitatlan said:
Although this took place under more "normal historical circumtances" (some time in 1939) i guess it is still an applicable strategy for drawing France out of the maginot. (actually it is probably easier achieved the earlier you set it up...)
As I recall it, it was my first 1.06c game, so bear with me if I miss out on some details. (game v.hard /fur. playing rather historically as Germay up to app. 1939.)
The strategy is to allow a front being set up in Germany.Simply let France wander two provinces into germany (there should be one province between them and the MagL. Here you should contain any further progress with a the maximum number of vanilla inf you could spare from the fighting in northern France.
Blitzt through france from behind, and attack the now empty maginot line (need I say speed is of the essense - use your fastest available units-and hold the land with slow moving units). The blitz into the northern provinces of France should start (after taking the critical Dutch and Belgian province don't bother to defeat any more dutch or Belgian troops than needed, they are easily finished when France falls, and most important they do not seem to counterattack). I cannot recall The map of Belgium, but I seem to remember, that Belgium should be allowed to keep their eastern province in order for the two zone buffer to the MagL to be intact.
When i did this France had a few divisions retreated from inner france to the lower maginot line zone (from my Blitz), but they were out of org, and soon retreated into Germany (held by France) Time a counteroffensive which occopy the forces in their newly occupied German zones as soon as your Blitz moves into the empty zones west of Maginot)
After this France is finished.
I didn't bother to take Paris before after the fall of the Maginot line, but I did make some skin-attacks on both Paris and the western French provinces to keep their forces from moving too much around.
the Trick is really to allow France & the allies to move forward, thus abandoning the MagLine and setting up a front i Germany instead.
As I said I don't remember all the details, but I guess you get the picture.
Using the two parameters of falling back and Blitz, this is the fastest full occupation of France I have yet achieved, and since the rest of the allies are easily rounded up I only lost a minimum of MP in my divisions.
I call this tactic the "Scorched earth of Germany" - why should only the russians be allowed
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olympia said:...The strategy is to allow a front being set up in Germany.Simply let France wander two provinces into germany (there should be one province between them and the MagL. Here you should contain any further progress with a the maximum number of vanilla inf you could spare from the fighting in northern France...I call this tactic the "Scorched earth of Germany" - why should only the russians be allowed
looks good to me.