Many players report very aggressive and strong performance of Poland in GC, in EEP too. I share this observation. Poland easily annex Teutonic Order, vassalize and eventually diplo-annex Bohemia, dominate in north Germany in first hundred of game. Then comes the union with Lithuania about 1569 and we have super-superpower (Poland and Lithuania were only superpower in XVI and first half of XVII century 
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As the Pole, I don't fear to declare: Poland is much too strong at the begining of game. The reasons are:
1. Army to strong
2. Wrong guideliness set in ai file.
3. Income to high
4. Mazovia was not part of Poland
5. Relations with neighbourhood are wrong
6. Lithuanian culture
7. Wrong triggers to union with Lithuania
Please note, I pressume that problem of Teutonic Order and Prussia is set up according to what Alan9C tries to do in this thread
http://www.europa-universalis.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=26409.
Ad 1 - army too strong
a) In the battle of Grunwald/Tanneberg in 1410 polish forces had maximum 30 thousands of people (mainly horsemen). In war 1454-1466 never exceeded this number. At the end of XV century Poalnd had no more than 4 000 of "permanent" army.
Please compare this with polish forces in January 1419 - their number (58 000!!!) is... fanny? silly?
I propose that at the beginning of GC Poland would have only one army in Kraków - 2 thousends of infantry and 4 thousands of cavalry.
b) The overall opinion on quality of Poland army in this forum is overrated due to XVI and XVII centuries. In the XV century the quality of this forces as a whole is rather suspicious. Although glorius victory in 1410, Poland (and Lithuania) was unable to capture any fortress of Teutonic Order and in the end the vicory was esentially useless. In the battle of Chojnice 1454 polish army was defeated because of its quality. The same in war with Moldovia in 1496. As far as I remember polish army in XV century never ever captured the fortress.
(To my possible polish debaters: please note, that I speak here of quality of polish forces 1) in XV century and 2) as a whole.)
I propose to reduce quality of Poland to 1, and offensive to 6.
Ad 2)
In Poland1.ai is the line:
#Which countries to conquer if possible. (to guide nation historically)
combat = { BOH HUN MOL LAT PRU POM RUS CRI }
I couldn't believe it! Poland to conquer Bohemia, Hungary, Pommerania, Russia and Crimea? To guide nation historically?!
Well, maybe someone could reasonably argue that Poland tried to conquer Russia, but the rest is... fanny? silly?
I propose:
combat = { PRU MOL LAT }
Ad 3)
Poland was not poor country in XV century, but treasury of Polish kings was almost always empty due to low taxes and very louse fiscal system. There are not instruments in EU2 engine to simulate this. So I suggest (no propose) to consider very high (25%?) inflation in Poland at the very beginning of GC. On the other hand I hear that inflation in neighbouring countries equal to highest one very quickly - if it is true it would be wrong solution.
Ad 4)
Mazovia should be vassal of Poland, not part of it. It's not to argue - untill 1526 Mazovia was seperate state with own monarchs, foreign policy (sometimes against Polish kings), laws etc.
I propose create Mazovia from tag U01. It should be incorporated in 1526 but under condition (trigger) that it is still vassal of Poland.
Ad 5)
Current foreign relations of Poland in 1419 are like this:
diplomacy = {
relation = { tag = LIT value = 120 }
relation = { tag = BOH value = 100 }
relation = { tag = HUN value = 100 }
relation = { tag = CRO value = 100 }
relation = { tag = SIE value = 100 }
relation = { tag = LAT value = -150 }
Please note that relations with Bohemia and Hungary are almost as good as with Lithuania. The history is against this. Especially Zigmunt of Luxembourh as the king ofHungary (since 1387) was constantly against Poland in our (polish) conflict with Teutonic Order (even declared war in 1411).
Second, there is no PRU in this list, although PRU (which for me means Teutonic Order, not Prussia) was the only really enamy of Poland in the first half of XV century.
So I propose:
diplomacy = {
relation = { tag = LIT value = 120 }
relation = { tag = BOH value = 50 }
relation = { tag = HUN value = -100 }
relation = { tag = LAT value = -150 }
relation = { tag = PRU value = -150 }
Ad 6)
At the beggining of GC Poland has, wrongly, lithuanian culture.
I propose: remove lithuanian culture.
Ad 7)
a) The union of Poland and Lithuania has lousy triggers. The only condition is not to be at war. I propose that Poland and Lithuania should be in the same alliance and have royal marriage to trigger that event.
b) Against what most of Poles and foreigners believes, the union of Poland and Lithuania in 1569 didnt't mean including, or annexation, of Lithuania to Poland.
Trying to be short in this post I plan to elaborate on the subject in the next thread.
Two others things:
8) In EEP Poland belongs to orthodox group. Although I understand reasons for it (to prepare Poland to fail in XVIII century), I don't share them. In XV and XVI century Poland "technology" was not worse than in many so called west countries and better than for example in Sweden. I propose that Poland belongs to latin tech group at the beginning and switch to orthodox as an effect of union with Lithuania.
9) And small but to me important detail: our capital is Warszawa, not "Warszaw".
What do you think?
).As the Pole, I don't fear to declare: Poland is much too strong at the begining of game. The reasons are:
1. Army to strong
2. Wrong guideliness set in ai file.
3. Income to high
4. Mazovia was not part of Poland
5. Relations with neighbourhood are wrong
6. Lithuanian culture
7. Wrong triggers to union with Lithuania
Please note, I pressume that problem of Teutonic Order and Prussia is set up according to what Alan9C tries to do in this thread
http://www.europa-universalis.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=26409.
Ad 1 - army too strong
a) In the battle of Grunwald/Tanneberg in 1410 polish forces had maximum 30 thousands of people (mainly horsemen). In war 1454-1466 never exceeded this number. At the end of XV century Poalnd had no more than 4 000 of "permanent" army.
Please compare this with polish forces in January 1419 - their number (58 000!!!) is... fanny? silly?
I propose that at the beginning of GC Poland would have only one army in Kraków - 2 thousends of infantry and 4 thousands of cavalry.
b) The overall opinion on quality of Poland army in this forum is overrated due to XVI and XVII centuries. In the XV century the quality of this forces as a whole is rather suspicious. Although glorius victory in 1410, Poland (and Lithuania) was unable to capture any fortress of Teutonic Order and in the end the vicory was esentially useless. In the battle of Chojnice 1454 polish army was defeated because of its quality. The same in war with Moldovia in 1496. As far as I remember polish army in XV century never ever captured the fortress.
(To my possible polish debaters: please note, that I speak here of quality of polish forces 1) in XV century and 2) as a whole.)
I propose to reduce quality of Poland to 1, and offensive to 6.
Ad 2)
In Poland1.ai is the line:
#Which countries to conquer if possible. (to guide nation historically)
combat = { BOH HUN MOL LAT PRU POM RUS CRI }
I couldn't believe it! Poland to conquer Bohemia, Hungary, Pommerania, Russia and Crimea? To guide nation historically?!
Well, maybe someone could reasonably argue that Poland tried to conquer Russia, but the rest is... fanny? silly?
I propose:
combat = { PRU MOL LAT }
Ad 3)
Poland was not poor country in XV century, but treasury of Polish kings was almost always empty due to low taxes and very louse fiscal system. There are not instruments in EU2 engine to simulate this. So I suggest (no propose) to consider very high (25%?) inflation in Poland at the very beginning of GC. On the other hand I hear that inflation in neighbouring countries equal to highest one very quickly - if it is true it would be wrong solution.
Ad 4)
Mazovia should be vassal of Poland, not part of it. It's not to argue - untill 1526 Mazovia was seperate state with own monarchs, foreign policy (sometimes against Polish kings), laws etc.
I propose create Mazovia from tag U01. It should be incorporated in 1526 but under condition (trigger) that it is still vassal of Poland.
Ad 5)
Current foreign relations of Poland in 1419 are like this:
diplomacy = {
relation = { tag = LIT value = 120 }
relation = { tag = BOH value = 100 }
relation = { tag = HUN value = 100 }
relation = { tag = CRO value = 100 }
relation = { tag = SIE value = 100 }
relation = { tag = LAT value = -150 }
Please note that relations with Bohemia and Hungary are almost as good as with Lithuania. The history is against this. Especially Zigmunt of Luxembourh as the king ofHungary (since 1387) was constantly against Poland in our (polish) conflict with Teutonic Order (even declared war in 1411).
Second, there is no PRU in this list, although PRU (which for me means Teutonic Order, not Prussia) was the only really enamy of Poland in the first half of XV century.
So I propose:
diplomacy = {
relation = { tag = LIT value = 120 }
relation = { tag = BOH value = 50 }
relation = { tag = HUN value = -100 }
relation = { tag = LAT value = -150 }
relation = { tag = PRU value = -150 }
Ad 6)
At the beggining of GC Poland has, wrongly, lithuanian culture.
I propose: remove lithuanian culture.
Ad 7)
a) The union of Poland and Lithuania has lousy triggers. The only condition is not to be at war. I propose that Poland and Lithuania should be in the same alliance and have royal marriage to trigger that event.
b) Against what most of Poles and foreigners believes, the union of Poland and Lithuania in 1569 didnt't mean including, or annexation, of Lithuania to Poland.
Trying to be short in this post I plan to elaborate on the subject in the next thread.
Two others things:
8) In EEP Poland belongs to orthodox group. Although I understand reasons for it (to prepare Poland to fail in XVIII century), I don't share them. In XV and XVI century Poland "technology" was not worse than in many so called west countries and better than for example in Sweden. I propose that Poland belongs to latin tech group at the beginning and switch to orthodox as an effect of union with Lithuania.
9) And small but to me important detail: our capital is Warszawa, not "Warszaw".
What do you think?
