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The AAR is in the final planning stages. we just need to finalise some details and get it on in general.

What we've so far is:

-j4zz (stupid italy) has finally signed up on this forum, so you can expect both sides of the story.(now i dont have to bitch about him in the forum, i can bitch directly TO him in the forum:) )
-j4zz will be germany
-i will be USA
-Dificulty is most likley to be Hard/vicious
-No plans on allieing with anyone yet.(might as well leave it this way)
-j4zz will no matter the circumstances be put in charge of any kind of african campaign :p
-No plans for deviding gained provinces yet.
- I will get a chance to try out a "secret tactics" witch is in the "planning stages", should it work out I could well wage war with EVERYONE including germany :rolleyes:

We just need a couple of days for preparations, so you should expect an update this weekend. Feel free to add comments and/or suggestions ;)

todays closing comment: due to complaints, the original german flag will be restored for upcoming screenshots.
 
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Yay! The bumbling fools will once again try to conquer the world. Maybe US could go axis (to the UK and France and USSR's horror). Good luck, now we can also hear Italy/j4zz's side of the story, so you won't be always right and he wont be always wrong.
 
I really loved you guys first AAR. it was so great, like in reality Germany had to come in help of Italy's campaings. Nice to see things not going always as smoothly.

Well good luck to you both, I hope this will be as fun to read as the previous.
 
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lets hear about a very realistic aar (yours realistic because you sometimes lose) rather than the computer being slaughtered (everyone elses) as is gets boring when there all the same
 
I attempted a realistic AAR with Afghanistan, I didn't go around declaring war on Neighbors (I dont like reading AARs where Italy is like "Oh, we must unite Mongolia with Italy")
 
and here it is the long waited (we havent had time) first part.

the scenario specs are above i think...

US and germany, start, tech share, GO.

First thing first, US navy was reoganised, the new 3rd fleet of 11 ships was at hannover on an important mission. Opening the sea lane of 200+ oil transports, german industry is well OILED now :D

klister: So what are you gonna do?
j4zz: I'm gonna build some tank units.
klister: ok, but i have an idea.
j: lets hear it!
K: you should conecentrate your research to tanks and doctrines, i'll take care of the infantry and industry research. and share them.
j:... ok...
k: remember i won't be going to no war without the panthers.
j: ok ok!!

(ps: i have a thing for panthers, and they have highest speed rate on land)
so we did, one year later all j4zz has is some puny panzer I's, when i have allmost all of the infantry techs and industry done. j4zz still has to get the IMPROVED MEDIUM TANK PROTOTYPE (IMTP) when asked where the panthers have gone to, so a new word battle breaks out.

k: i have a three part question to you.
j: shoot
K: Where are my panthers, why arent I building panthers, Why arent my panthers at war right now?
j: umm i forgot to develop the gun.
K: god damn it, i'll research them my self. just give me improved medium tank.
j4zz gives me some assault gun tech.
J: here you go.
K: that aint no IMTP, thats f*cking assault gun.
J: oh yeah... the IMTP has 30 days left.
K: my god, man.... how hard can it.... forget it.

US has still the bigger part of the IC concentrated on consumer goods, good damn it people i know best you dont need all this food. german army is now ready for the blitz in france... when...

j: any final words before hell breaks loose?
K: yeah, declare war on me, the damn people wont believe in the news about war in europe, I need to teach them how to rantion (spell check?) things.
J: umm....
K: just do it, i know what im doing.
J: ok.

germany declares war and US industry is concentrated on transports and infantry production... yes no tanks god damn panthers aint ready yet.

UK declares war on germany, no bright future for france is in sight.
germany successfully applied the encircle-the-french-in-the-magino-line-tactic (witch they learned from me in the previous game :D)

US oil still flows towards germany.

After france germany and US end the war between them... (the theatric war for the public) US consumers are high again... sigh...
eisenhower is sent to germany with 16 mec infantry divisions to check things out. its now late 1938 and US war intry is at a low 79... and sinking last time i checked :(

drastic actions need to be taken.
K: attack poland
J: why... ok
K: just do it i need the war entry, my sub marine fleet is now ready along side 40 transports and 32 mec infantry.
J: but...
US cuts off oil in highest serecy (empty tranpsorts are going back and forth.)
K: check your oil supplies
J: .... hmmm..... its about 20000+ it looks cool.
....
J: ok ok ok. i'll attack poland
K: good boy.

USA is now way ahead of germany in research, except in tank techs... its a draw.
bomb development is going as planned... behind germanys back offcourse.

USA had to cut off the electronic and nuclear reseacrch to the germans... as an "insurance" if you may, for now the germans outnumber the americans... for NOW.
don't worry germany doesnt know anything about the progress in these areas, and are quite happy with continious flow of infantry techs.
germany is low on land doctrines (check above they should be ahead in this area) so US supplies them with that too...sigh...

EDITED: oh yeah forgot to mention, germany lost some tank divisions in a failed attempt to land in england... i think it was 10+
bet j4zz will fill us in on that one.


todays closing comment: US needs to stack EVERYTHING for the 80% dissent hit of joining the axis. god save us all...
 
Great, soon you guys will have the world map painted blue and grey (if you dont mess up). Hopefully after you guys divide the earth up, you'll attack each other then the real (nuclear) fun begins.
 
And we are of...

But first what goes on in klister's mind when hes playing HOI, I have no idea. hmm....or do i really want to know.

Okey, first thing first. US need tech, cause they are way behind german in that field...and as a good sport, i give him almost everything his perverted mind needs.

So year goes by, and Us gave me oli, to sporre the indust. Germany are buliding a great army for the conquest of france, and i thank him for this.
When the fighting beginngs i have 42 div (20 tank div, 22 inf.). The battle goes great...belguim is over run, and my panzers are encircle-the-french-in-the-magino-line-tactic...i mange to encircle 30 france div. Then the rest was easy....
When france fell, in german hand, Klister was astonish over my total conquest. :eek: !!!

After sceruing the atlatinc wall, i choose to make a go against england, my fleet at this point was almost wiped out. But i manged to get 10 transport, and 7 destroyers, to do the job.
Well 6 mech, and 4 tank disembarked in newcastle. And a further more 6 inf where to be put there to reinforce. What a didint expect was englands, 25 div. standing next to me.... :( (what happend next?? u can probly quess that)

So after this defeat ... i could only hear the laughter of klister in my headphones....!!

But now i have turned my new army agianst poland....and this should be a walk in the park .....
Ill end this with, Declare War agianst poland...ok,ok
 
screen shot update.
heres the situation in europe. notice the army names :D

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dont tell j4zz not mess up
he'll mess up worse then he would if you had'nt warned him...... yeah that makes sence right?:confused:
 
Sorry everyone for the update being so darn late, it's just that me and j4zz have had alot of non-HoI-related things to do.

But I promise that updates will be posted as soon as we got the game going.

I think i can manage some kind of reporting after all.
As j4zz (who has better connection) being host, there is no telling when the saving ocurrs... infact some of the major success in the "Italy-Germany" campagin and operation "why-did-you-attack-my-units-are-not-ready-yet" were successfull becuase of the flaws in j4zz's saving system.

here is how its done.
play for 40 mins - get reminder from klister to save - save with a new name - crash - get corrupted saved files - start again - not know witch is the newest save etc etc... you get the idea

This stuff is "almost" out of topic, but to me seems to fill its place as information.
I dont think theres more to be told, so i'll be dropping a couple of these whenever the game process is moving to slow.

todays closing comment: "todays closing comment" is related to a played turn, witch this reply lacks. ;)
 
sry for the delay. aint much that can be done about it, if you aint playing you aint gonna be reporting. if j4zz takes too long (logging on msn and/or calling) i'll just pick it up on my own and show everyone just how FAST you can take over the world.
 
finaly the long waited update is here.....

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as the screenshot shows, the war between US and germany is finaly over. just before the US had declared war on spain (to create a beach head in europe).

24 mec infantry division are deployed in spain for the offensive. UK quickly reinfroces gerbratlar with some 24 divisions.
US forces suffer a f*cked up penalty when attcking in form of 1% battle effectivity... the offensive is halted and 16 new divs are deployed, to no help...

j4zz: need help with spain? *you can almost see the big fat smile on his face via the voice com*
klister: nah im good you concentrate on not bringing small countries to our alleiance.
j: ok...
K: you are proud of your self aint ya?
j: i have no idea what you are talking about *you can still see that smile*
K: your in awe of your victory in france aint ya?
j: ... so you need help or not?
k: im good, go prepare for russia.

24 more divisions are deployed to spain, totaling in 64 mec inf divs deployed into 8 armys units.
the battle effectivity is compensated for by numbers.
the offensive works like a charm when spanish arys are surrouned and destroyed one by one, when finally....

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the panthers are now researched and 32 divisions are in progress for the russian campaign... now we can deploy them in europe instead of transporting from the US :D

remember the strat i was talking about?
well the components are in production.
ps: this plan has nothing to do with nukes.

germany still hsa to maginot line to clear.
patton with 8 panzer units makes an attempt to clear it but manages to clear half of it, so now 28 french divisions are locked in one provice, when.....

j: where the frenchies go?
k: they no more i nuked them.
a wiered silence is heard on the voice com

the gremans plan to carry out the russian campaign with what looks like pz I's...
US sends 48 divisions for the baltics in preparation for the russian campaign.

and the attack starts.
in 2 weeks US forces have moscow and leningrad, when germany is yet to move forward, j4zz will be filling in for the russian campaign, so im out.

todays closing comment: is a quote "a wiered silence is heard on the voice com" after the nuke hit the frenchies :rolleyes: