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nikssims

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Mix of Victoria 2 political system, Hearts of Iron war mechanics , Crusader Kings character system, and all the great features that will be added in East vs. West, all in one, made on a new generation Clausewitz engine. What do you think?
 
Lovely, but it's not going to happen for a long time. Either it wouldn't suit the era its set in, or it wouldn't flow properly between eras.
 
I mean as if the all features of those games are united in one game, and the game period is from something 1990 to 2050. (modern world)
 
I mean as if the all features of those games are united in one game, and the game period is from something 1990 to 2050. (modern world)

But what would the character relations be? I mean in CKII it makes sense because its the feudal system so you have vassals & lieges. What character relations would you have in the 1990s?
 
But what would the character relations be? I mean in CKII it makes sense because its the feudal system so you have vassals & lieges. What character relations would you have in the 1990s?

maybe political parties and political leaders?
 
In multiplayer games people would fight over who gets to be the US :p.

I'd rather be China as this is the era of the decline of the US (and the West in general).

As for this game idea, it'd be really cool and highly ambitious. First problem would be that the year goes to 2050, we don't know what will happen by then and the world is so fast-paced that A LOT can change in just 1 year; case in point, 9/11, Arab Spring and the 2008 financial crisis. Just 1 year before the Libyan Civil War, not a single person on Earth knew that Gaddafi who had ruled Libya for over 30 years would just get toppled. Nobody right now can safely say what will happen with climate change, an exponentially increasing population, Europe's economy, the Arab World, etc. etc.

Second problem would be the economy which is far more important than politics. Simulating the economy of the 21st century is approximately 9,000 times more complex than the industrial economy of Victoria 2. Thing is, not even the top economists, heads of central banks, leaders of countries and executives of the most powerful bulge brackets know what the hell is going on in the economy and where it's headed. Nobody was able to predict the massive global consequences of the mass trading of collateralized financial products backed by subprime US mortgages.

If such a game is possible, it would be the ultimate game for me, to the point of being dangerous as I'd never leave the house :p
 
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Nobody right now can safely say what will happen with climate change, an exponentially increasing population, Europe's economy, the Arab World, etc. etc.

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Here you have it:

Climate Change: As you live in Canada, you're lucky in a way. You can grow crops for a longer period of time and maybe new add some new crops too. The summer in Northern Canada will extend from one week in late July to maybe three weeks. Awsome.

On the bad side, something like 150 M mexicans and 100 M USAicans (?) will move north because of the increasing temperatures in the southern northern hemisphere. Simillar situation that I as a Swede has, only with people from Southern Europe.

Increasing population: This is not as bad as it seems. Because of the climate changes will trigger mass migrations and famine, the wars that follows that will take care of the pepole that hasn't alredy died a horrible death of lack of water and food.

Economy in the Euro-zone (the countries outside the Euro-zone are doing just fine, mostly): This will get better. Or at least, thats the most probable outcome. The end of the world, in economic terms, has been proclaimd a dozzen of times in the past. It has never happened. On the contrary, things tend to go for the better all the time, despite minor or not so minor setbacks.

The Arab world: Since it's not an entetie really, you can't say that it's going one way or another for the all the arab nations. North Africa exept Egypt are doing progress, Syria is a mess (and dragging Lebanon down with them), The gulf states hasn't even been affected to any larger extent.


There you have it. Feel free to call the UN with this info, I don't have the number...
 
I'll play Russia. Playing as Putin has to be totally amazing.

"you sight a bear one day while walking in the woods"

1: slay it with your bare hands (99% chance character DIES, +200 prestige, +1 martial)

2: leave it alone (no effect)

3: shoot it and pretend to have slain it with you bare hands (+200 prestige, +1 intrigue)
 
"you sight a bear one day while walking in the woods"

1: slay it with your bare hands (99% chance character DIES, +200 prestige, +1 martial)

2: leave it alone (no effect)

3: shoot it and pretend to have slain it with you bare hands (+200 prestige, +1 intrigue)
This is somewhat funny.

First option is to slay the bear with hands and risk life,
But in third option the character has a weapon from somewhere :D.

And what would putin do in a bear infested forest anyway?

Edit: oh and how is he going to shoot the bear, and then pretend it killed it with hands :D? I would love to hear how he made bullet holes with fists :D
 
And what would putin do in a bear infested forest anyway?

Edit: oh and how is he going to shoot the bear, and then pretend it killed it with hands :D? I would love to hear how he made bullet holes with fists :D

The man has a lot of photos of him doing badass stuff. Slaying a bear with his bare hands has to be next on the list. Of course, actually doing so would likely mean death, so he'd just get a bodyguard to shoot it, wipe some blood on himself and then pose as if he'd slain it unarmed.
 
The problem with such a game in modern times is that communications, technology, and warfare have advanced to such a point that nobody can press their ambitions for global domination without blowing the world up in the process, and the recent trend of republics replacing monarchies and dictatorships would make such a scenario unlikely to begin with.Global politics are gridlocked, and there are so many safeguards to ensure that the status quo is maintained that it's probably not even possible to simulate the world's political climate in a convincing way.

And doesn't even begin to cover the issues that "simulating" the future brings up. The past is static, the present is ever-changing, and the future is inconceivable.
 
The problem with such a game in modern times is that communications, technology, and warfare have advanced to such a point that nobody can press their ambitions for global domination without blowing the world up in the process, and the recent trend of republics replacing monarchies and dictatorships would make such a scenario unlikely to begin with.Global politics are gridlocked, and there are so many safeguards to ensure that the status quo is maintained that it's probably not even possible to simulate the world's political climate in a convincing way.

And doesn't even begin to cover the issues that "simulating" the future brings up. The past is static, the present is ever-changing, and the future is inconceivable.

As long as the game starts before 1950, the entire Cold War can be played through. That means it could easily be extended well beyond the 90's if you play correctly.

I mean the game doesn't have to be about World Domination (though if that's the route you want to take it would be possible through having better nukes and nuclear defence systems than everyone else...or declaring manual warfare after getting rid of your enemies' nukes.).
If we look at how countries compete in the modern day, much of it is indeed economic while other countries fight over scraps of land for pride; cultural influence cannot be underestimated, and having nations in your sphere of influence would in effect add them to your faction. Hollywood and its role as a world superpower put the US on top.

I actually moderately enjoyed superpowers 2 as a modern day geopolitical simulator. My problem with it was that warfare was very poorly implemented and the whole game just seemed to be too ambitious. Paradox could definitely pull it off, but it would be quite a departure from previous games.