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LordInsane said:
Different flags depending on who formed Albion or Brittania is probably needed, to a degree. A Wessex-York-London-England formed Brittania might have the same flag, for instance (if nothing else, it's not extremely likely that the first three haven't formed England if they are in a position to form Brittania), and the changes to the flag needn't be very large, just enough to show some difference.
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It's an excess of work, and pointless. to make it actually show as a shield, we'd need different tags, and neither me nor matty as far as I know is VERY proficient with making new 'flag gfx'. If someone makes them, I might be in favor, but just talking about things gets nothing done.
 
panther-anthro said:
It's an excess of work, and pointless. to make it actually show as a shield, we'd need different tags, and neither me nor matty as far as I know is VERY proficient with making new 'flag gfx'. If someone makes them, I might be in favor, but just talking about things gets nothing done.
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You're wrong about that.
 
Garbon said:
You're wrong about that.
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Eh Garbon I thought you had to make it work as a different tag, to represent that flag graphic? I've never seen any mod do otherwise. Still a pointless, and largely stupid time-sink that has no good reason behind warranting so much time for something that merely 'irritates' a few people.
 
panther-anthro said:
Eh Garbon I thought you had to make it work as a different tag, to represent that flag graphic? I've never seen any mod do otherwise. Still a pointless, and largely stupid time-sink that has no good reason behind warranting so much time for something that merely 'irritates' a few people.
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command = { type = flagname which = "xxxxx" }

This changes the country's flag and shield set to that named in the quotes. It does not change the tag or require it to be changed.

As for the prioritizing issue ... these are individual things. But if someone really wants it done, they need to do it themselves, not complain and demand that it become someone else's priority.
 
:p See, Matty agrees with me, complaining at us will not make us prioritize it. I have other stuff I care more about to do as is, and that's my primary concern. Maybe sometime in the future, I'd give it a look. Not very high at all on my list of priorities.
 
I'd like to deconstruct your straw-woman of me. I am not complaining or demanding. I am pointing out an aspect that has been overlooked. From there, I really can't do anything, as I have zero artistic capability. So, in pointing it out, I am hoping that someone with that knack will agree and take up the cause. Not demanding.

I would really appreciate it if you did not assume I am some whiny aggressor. ;)
 
panther-anthro said:
Eh Garbon I thought you had to make it work as a different tag, to represent that flag graphic? I've never seen any mod do otherwise. Still a pointless, and largely stupid time-sink that has no good reason behind warranting so much time for something that merely 'irritates' a few people.
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We do it a lot in the AGCEEP.
 
panther-anthro said:
AGCEEP has more then two people actively contributing as well, and a lot of it's nations ARE filled out. *can't say the same for most of interregnum*
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I was meaning the shield changes. We're a mod that has them.

I'm not really participating in the minor drama about people who want things but don't contribute. :cool:
 
If one was to create these flags, how would they look? I attempted a mock-design but it looked far too colourful. Adding a Welsh flag into the equation is difficult. Would the flag necessarily be a mixture of the other flags? By the sounds of things, Britannia would most likely be formed by force rather than a marriage, how tolerant would Scotland or Wessex or whoever be to their new people and how would their flag reflect that?
Why would Ireland be interested in forming Britannia?
Sorry if I am making a hassle of all this, it is just a task which I believe I could do, and I would not mind doing a little to help if permitted.
 
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Having the ability to form Brittania or Albion is an excelent idea. Specially Albion. I will feel like playing Interregnum plus Warhammer. :rofl:
I will also use to momentum to make a question: If a country become another, does it stops having it's old events? If Eire, per example, become Albion, will it lose all it's events, like the explorers, or the civil war?
Or it does happen the other way around, they merging all the conquered nations'events, plus the events from the new formed state? In such a case, playing as Albion or Brittania would REALLY be interesting... :p
 
It's mostly the way garbon suggests, but there is a third way, especially if you know some outcomes are likely.

You could, for example, have a whole slew of events that are based on the ownership of a province usually a key one like a capital. If we propose that Albion cannot be formed without Eire, for example, then using Eire's capital as the province in question means that it might work well, because it would always be part of this Albion state.

The, in the triggers, it clarifies that this province must be owned by either Eire or Albion. In this way, you can have a bunch of Eire-related events that would trigger for Eire or Albion, without having to replicate them.
 
It's a trade-off of clarity and simplicity. After all, there are more things to worry about in the duplicated scenario (what if Eire then revolts from Albion), but it is also easier for players to see the events that will happen to them as a nation, as things are kept in their respective nation's files (as opposed at having to figure out where Albion's Eire related events are stored).
 
Can I suggest that Albion be able to take the rest of Britain in some way? Or if it does so it's at least rewarded with either cores or a spread of the Gaelic culture? It doesn't matter if they are rather far off or something but it's always tempting to try to take the rest of the Isle. And shoving your finger in the eye of those Hanseatic bastards would be awfully nice.
 
Avalanchemike said:
Can I suggest that Albion be able to take the rest of Britain in some way? Or if it does so it's at least rewarded with either cores or a spread of the Gaelic culture? It doesn't matter if they are rather far off or something but it's always tempting to try to take the rest of the Isle. And shoving your finger in the eye of those Hanseatic bastards would be awfully nice.
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We could, but Albion is ment to have less cores, and be weaker then Britannia?
 
Avalanchemike said:
Can I suggest that Albion be able to take the rest of Britain in some way? Or if it does so it's at least rewarded with either cores or a spread of the Gaelic culture? It doesn't matter if they are rather far off or something but it's always tempting to try to take the rest of the Isle. And shoving your finger in the eye of those Hanseatic bastards would be awfully nice.
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I don't see the spread of Galeic culture happening until about 200 years after they conquer English provinces. And only if they choose an aggressive settlement option.

As long as we write the events that way, I see no reason why not.
 
I don't see why Inglis is a culture tag, while were on this topic. Should be Gaelic period. Yes, I've seen the scottish event that removes gaelic culture, if they move to anglo-saxon territories. But, quite frankly Inglis is a waste of a culture tag, we could use it for several other things, in different regions. I for one would like a seperate 'Roman' culture, for a certain 'idea' I, and a few others have been toying with, you guys will see what later probably.
 
I think the Inglis culture is pretty important really in representing that Scotland hasn't had a chance to fully dominate those provinces and that if one of the English states does have a revival then they could return those provinces to anglosaxon culture instead.
 
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