IEGIP - Icons for HoI DD in "SKIF-style" comeplements for SKIF

[LeonidOst]

How can i post pisc ?

 

[Van der Gent]

How can i post pisc ?

You upload your image somewhere and than put it inbetween these:

 

[LeonidOst]

 

[LeonidOst]

and 4 more
one guy from Russian Republic (1918)
one guy from Kornilovschi (Siberia)
and two - from ROA (Russian Liberation Army)

 

[Van der Gent]

They look really good! Although you need to have a standard size on the front figure. I always use this one as a measure for my icons:

(Don't ask me why I chose that one. It's quite random. )

I would love if you would join our team.

 

[LeonidOst]

Ok

With a great pleaser

 

[Van der Gent]

Great. Welcome! So, what would you like to work with? You're interestead in the eastern parts of Europe?

 

[General_Grant]

When are Turkish and Austrian icons going to be released?

 

[Van der Gent]

The Austrian set has been released, although the set will get a remake sometime in a close future. Look a few pages back and you will find it.

 

[LeonidOst]

I will work with Russia
I am planning to make icons for Russia (white movement,empire and republik),Belorussia,Ukraine and ROA
But there is no icons for tanks and airplanes
becouse there were no one in history

 

[General_Grant]

I will work with Russia
I am planning to make icons for Russia (white movement,empire and republik),Belorussia,Ukraine and ROA
But there is no icons for tanks and airplanes
becouse there were no one in history

I beleive you can use the Soviet ones, and simply replace the red army logo with something else?

Anyway, I'll be looking forward those Icons especially if its for the Empire.

 

[Van der Gent]

I will work with Russia
I am planning to make icons for Russia (white movement,empire and republik),Belorussia,Ukraine and ROA
But there is no icons for tanks and airplanes
becouse there were no one in history

USSR was a federation and it's mainpart was Russia. So russia did exist, it was just a member of a communist federation. So soviet airplanes and tanks is the way to go!

It would be nice if you could use air force roundels btw, if there aren't any one must make them. I made bhuddist roundels for my Tibet set.

 

[Akira]

LeonidOst:
You can ask SKIF for permition to use their soviet tanks and airplanes and edit them.
Also, you shouldn't use Kornilov's emblem as Kornilov was killed early in the Civil War (while it was Kolchak who led the Whites Siberia). Also, how many Russian sets, apart from ROA, do you plan to make? If you need any assistance or advice, ask me.

So russia did exist, it was just a member of a communist federation. So soviet airplanes and tanks is the way to go!

Well, USSR WAS Russia, regardless of its structure. Remember, that Moscow was the capital, Russian was the official language everywhere in USSR etc. Although that can be argued if considered from metaphisical or civilisational approach, it is rather incorrect to consider Russia a member of the USSR.

 

[Van der Gent]

Well, USSR WAS Russia, regardless of its structure. Remember, that Moscow was the capital, Russian was the official language everywhere in USSR etc. Although that can be argued if considered from metaphisical or civilisational approach, it is rather incorrect to consider Russia a member of the USSR.

So the state of Berlin is Germany and England is the United Kingdom? Ontario is Canada? All parts of a Federation are a part of the country.

Scotland is an integral part of the United Kingdom. Bavaria is an integral part of Germany and Quebec is an integral part of Canada. All members of a federation are a part of the federation. When countries left the Soviet Socialist Union there wasn't any union and as Russia was the only country left they were therefore not a union but Russia again.

Austria-Hungary was a union based mostly on Austria, but Hungary was the sucessor(sp?) of A-H.

I say that Russia was a member of the USSR, England is a member of the United Kingdom. Berlin is a member of Bundesrepublik Deutschland and Quebec is a member of Canada. And Austria was a member of the Austro-Hungarian federation.

 

[Akira]

Ok.

So the state of Berlin is Germany and England is the United Kingdom? Ontario is Canada? All parts of a Federation are a part of the country.

The cases of Berlin and Ontario are very different from that of England. Remember, that Germany and Canada are countries that are made up of smaller autonomous pieces that have no clearly dominant parts, unlike USSR.

United Kingdom is a different case, more similar to USSR, since it is composed of constituent countries. And in the way how England is dominant, you might indeed consider that England = United Kingdom.

Austria-Hungary was a union based mostly on Austria, but Hungary was the sucessor(sp?) of A-H.

Since when?

Scotland is an integral part of the United Kingdom. Bavaria is an integral part of Germany and Quebec is an integral part of Canada. All members of a federation are a part of the federation.

Dagestan and Mordovia are integral parts of the Russian Federation, so?

When countries left the Soviet Socialist Union there wasn't any union and as Russia was the only country left they were therefore not a union but Russia again.

I suggest you ask people from post-soviet countries what were they part of, Russia or a communist federation? As somebody living in such a country I can tell you for sure what the answer will be.

 

[Van der Gent]

Ok.

The cases of Berlin and Ontario are very different from that of England. Remember, that Germany and Canada are countries that are made up of smaller autonomous pieces that have no clearly dominant parts, unlike USSR.

United Kingdom is a different case, more similar to USSR, since it is composed of constituent countries. And in the way how England is dominant, you might indeed consider that England = United Kingdom.

Since when?

Dagestan and Mordovia are integral parts of the Russian Federation, so?

I suggest you ask people from post-soviet countries what were they part of, Russia or a communist federation? As somebody living in such a country I can tell you for sure what the answer will be.

England is England, United Kingdom is so much more. IMHO.

Since 1919. Although that probably wasn't the general thought after 1920.

Well yes, they might say Russia because it was a dictatorship. Although the Scottish probably don't claim they belong to England.

 

[Akira]

England is England, United Kingdom is so much more

Think of Dagestan. Or Tibet.

Since 1919. Although that probably wasn't the general thought after 1920.

Ok. As I've read from Wikipedia: first goes the Treaty of Saint-Germain (1919)where Ausrian republic recognizes the independance of Hungary, then goes the Treaty of Trianon (1920) where Entente signs peace treaty with Hungary. So, I don't think that Hungary can be seen as the successor of the A-H the way how Russia is of the USSR.

Although the Scottish probably don't claim they belong to England.

But they probably do claim that what they try to break away is London (which is England). Also, when a region has an independance movement, that usually means that it is NOT the dominant or equal part.

Well yes, they might say Russia because it was a dictatorship.

And so if Russia was (or is) a dictatorship? Remember, Spain is not a dictatorship, yet the basks or catalans don't seem to feel that they belong to an obscure federation.

And, finally, a piece from Wikipedia, LINK

Soviet Union (USSR)

The constitution of the 1922-1991 Soviet Union (USSR) theoretically provided for a voluntary federation or confederation of soviet socialist republics. Each was notionally governed by its own supreme council and had the right to secede. Furthermore, some republics themselves possessed further nominally self-governing units. Two of them, Belarus and Ukraine, were even members of the United Nations, some other republics had their own foreign ministries. In practice, the system of one-party government found in the Soviet Union meant that governance of the Union was highly centralised, with important decisions taken by the leaders of the Communist Party in Moscow and merely 'rubber stamped' by local institutions. Nonetheless, with the introduction of free, competitive elections in the final years of the Soviet Union, the Union's theoretically federal structure became a reality in practice; this occurred only for a brief interim period, as the elected governments of many republics demanded their right to secede and became independent states. Thus the Soviet Union's de jure federal structure played a key role in its dissolution.

 

[Van der Gent]

I'd say say is Dagestan is Dagestan.

Tibet hower doesn't belong to a federation. So, Tibet = China.

"The Treaty of Trianon is the peace treaty concluded at the end of World War I by the Allies of World War I, on one side, and Hungary, seen as a successor of Austria-Hungary, on the other."

Whereas the former Austro-Hungarian Monarchy has now ceased to exist, and has been replaced in Hungary by a national Hungarian Government

Spain isn't a federation. And of course there will be one state that is the strongest within a federation.

I won't speak my mind on the democratic state of Russia, I consider that too sensitive.

Perhaps we should en our OT discussion.

 

[Akira]

I'd say say is Dagestan is Dagestan.

Yes, but does that mean that RF isn't Russia?

Tibet hower doesn't belong to a federation. So, Tibet = China.

Tibet is an autonomous entity within China, similar (ok, not the same) like Dagestan to RF. Remember, that there is no "Russian republic" within RF.

Spain isn't a federation.

It is still composed of autonomous entities.

I won't speak my mind on the democratic state of Russia, I consider that too sensitive.

Well, I personally don't mind Russia being "undemocratic". I don't even believe that democracy is good for humankind, considering the way the world is going. But that is a discussion for some other time.

Perhaps we should end our OT discussion.

Perhaps.

Which reminds me, where the f*** is my danish set? Since it doesn't seem that you need to work on Russian and Swedish sets, you can finish that one.

 

[LeonidOst]

Kornilov's emblem was used until 1920
It was a official emblem of kornilovzev

I am planning to make up 4 or 5 sets

Akira
Thanks I will