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Albania and other muslim Ottoman balkan provinces were orthodox until after 1492, sometimes over a century later-the turks islamicized the population because of frequent revolts.
A solution would be to have Albania, Macedonia(?) and any other muslim balkan provinces start out in 1492 as orthodox/catholic, and give the turks 2-3 random conversion events(after all,the conversions could of happened in different areas then historically, if the ottomans focused their efforts elsewhere).
A solution would be to have Albania, Macedonia(?) and any other muslim balkan provinces start out in 1492 as orthodox/catholic, and give the turks 2-3 random conversion events(after all,the conversions could of happened in different areas then historically, if the ottomans focused their efforts elsewhere).
Sorry but I don't understand the validity of a poll where people can cheat. Cheating is very simple. I can register with several niks so that I can vote several time. How do you consider all this?
damn, i hate it when those koreans cheat. Just remove them from the list then doomy.
ErrantOne
ErrantOne
Hey!~
First and foremost, Singapore back in that era is not known as Singapore, but Temasek.
Anyway, a number of empires existed in that era
There's the Majapahit Kingdom, which existed from around 1300 to about early 16th century...it was a well known naval power occupying much of today's indonesia.
there's also the Makassar kingdom, occupying southwestern Sulawesi, and Bantam, occupying Sunda.
In the late 16th century, the Muslim kingdom of Mataram arose in Central Java to absorb much of Java's principalities....
Thus, if a South-east asia state is to be constructed....i hoped i have given a few good ideas....
First and foremost, Singapore back in that era is not known as Singapore, but Temasek.
Anyway, a number of empires existed in that era
There's the Majapahit Kingdom, which existed from around 1300 to about early 16th century...it was a well known naval power occupying much of today's indonesia.
there's also the Makassar kingdom, occupying southwestern Sulawesi, and Bantam, occupying Sunda.
In the late 16th century, the Muslim kingdom of Mataram arose in Central Java to absorb much of Java's principalities....
Thus, if a South-east asia state is to be constructed....i hoped i have given a few good ideas....
the problem with most of these SE Asian states is that they rarely extended beyond the boundaries of of various Eu territories, and they were more city states than anyone else. If a SE Asian state is to be added the Khmer empire (cambodia) is the best case because it at least extended across several EU provonces. Majpahit would be a nice addition but by the EU time frame it was in clear retreat and no longer extended to the whole of Java. One thing that is central to SE Asdian history of this period that EU does a terrible job of simulating is the expansion of Islam and the destruction of the earlier Hindu dominated order. Even the French missionary activities in the 18th century can not really be represented. let alone the wave of Islamic expansion that swept the whole region in this very period.
Well, the only sane thing I can do is to consider the poll no longer decisive. I am sorry, but the final word will have to be mine, although it will be based on the outcome of the poll. Right now, that would be Zanj.
No specific date. I can say that apart from the support of the 1520 scenario in the IGCConfig, the Byzantium scenario and the inclusion of the new nation from this poll, I am done.
Originally posted by Crook
Cornelius,
I've got leaders and monarchs for Kazakhs, so if you can maybe lookup some events for them it would be nice. I have my doubts about Kazaks now, they do stop Russian AI quite nicely, but Sibeiria isn't getting colonized
BTW, event 7 isn't working properly at least yet.
Crook
Maybe Kazakhs should have lands in a line, so leaving a one province corridor will let Russia to still colonise Siberia. I will look for the events, but I now also doubt that Kazakhs will win the poll.
Reg. event 7, I have tried it also this weekend - game crashes
for no reasons.Btw, I have played Persia in IGC 2.2 this weekend - interesting to play with so many revolt events, but in another game I tried as another nation, Persian AI was beaten by its neighbours while trying at the same time to quell rebellions. 20 years that I have played as Persia I was not able to make any upgrades - monthly income went to increasing stability and yearly income to recruit armies that were still miserably small in comparison with rebel armies.
Three religiouns that Persia has at the beginning of the campaign together with -3 stability creates even a higher revolt risk. Once, when Hartmann posted on my Persian AAR, he said that -3 stability was introduced to represent the civil war in the country during the Safavids' rise to power.
IMO, or revolt events shoulds be less or stability returned to at least 0.
I have noticed that you have introduced for Ismail several revolt events, but I think revolts - civil wars should be before his rule to represent his struggle to gain power and not when he raises to the throne, when a +1 stability event should be instead to represent the reemergence of central authority in Persia.
Combined 2.2c report and wishes for 2.3
Offhand 2.2c Normal/Normal Cot in Asthrakan and Moscow. Split lowlands between Austria and Spain.
Russia seems to have problems with Poland IMO. While they does fearly good against other naitions, Russia never seems to gobbel up Poland. This is a behaviour I'v seen in most OH games.
Persia and Moguhls. Well at first it seemed very good, the Moguhls expanded as they should. But during the 17th century they went bananas and captured several Persian provinces and kicking out the europeeans on the Indian pennisuela. While they where doing this, Persia went ahead and colonized ..... WEST AFRICA
Perhaps you should reduce their colonial dynasm.
Spain: I would like you to adopt my Spanish ai file. I'v edited yours so that Spain doesent colonize the antilles. I think that is quite historical.
Norway (Denmark): The province of Finnmark should have a level one fortress and the capital should be Vardøhus.
Iceland should be an Norwegian provinc in the free Norway scenario.
BTW the Portugese ai works excelent great work
Offhand 2.2c Normal/Normal Cot in Asthrakan and Moscow. Split lowlands between Austria and Spain.
Russia seems to have problems with Poland IMO. While they does fearly good against other naitions, Russia never seems to gobbel up Poland. This is a behaviour I'v seen in most OH games.
Persia and Moguhls. Well at first it seemed very good, the Moguhls expanded as they should. But during the 17th century they went bananas and captured several Persian provinces and kicking out the europeeans on the Indian pennisuela. While they where doing this, Persia went ahead and colonized ..... WEST AFRICA
Perhaps you should reduce their colonial dynasm.
Spain: I would like you to adopt my Spanish ai file. I'v edited yours so that Spain doesent colonize the antilles. I think that is quite historical.
Norway (Denmark): The province of Finnmark should have a level one fortress and the capital should be Vardøhus.
Iceland should be an Norwegian provinc in the free Norway scenario.
BTW the Portugese ai works excelent
great work
Re: Combined 2.2c report and wishes for 2.3
I am icelandic, and unfortunately this is true.. although we would have preferred being colonized by some more impressive nation.. we were annexed by norway in 1262-1264 (it took some convincing) and iceland was considered being under norway untill 1814 when norway was annexed to sweden and iceland stayed part of the old denmark-norway crown.
I am icelandic, and unfortunately this is true.. although we would have preferred being colonized by some more impressive nation.. we were annexed by norway in 1262-1264 (it took some convincing) and iceland was considered being under norway untill 1814 when norway was annexed to sweden and iceland stayed part of the old denmark-norway crown.
Re: Re: Combined 2.2c report and wishes for 2.3
He, he. Actually I'v read somewhere that it was due to bad knowledge from the Swedish negotiator that Iceland (and Greenland) was left in the hands of the Danish He simply did'nt know his history...
Perhaps he should have partisipated in this forum
He, he. Actually I'v read somewhere that it was due to bad knowledge from the Swedish negotiator that Iceland (and Greenland) was left in the hands of the Danish
He simply did'nt know his history...Perhaps he should have partisipated in this forum
Ops, I forgot to mention China-Dai Viet-Ayhuttaya....
Sorry Doomdark, but your solution did'nt work... China diploannexed both in my last HO game...
I usualy have Dai Viet as a major nation when I play ICG. This way I avoid the diploannex problem.
Sorry Doomdark, but your solution did'nt work...
China diploannexed both in my last HO game... I usualy have Dai Viet as a major nation when I play ICG. This way I avoid the diploannex problem.
Dai Viet and Ayutthaya are unknown to China in IGC 2.2c. If they are annexed it means one party has gained new maps. At present there is no other way to stop military annexation by China. Diplo-annex can be stopped by a change of religion, but that would be very ahistorical.
Dagfinn,
Yes, I've also noticed this... I will reactivate all Russian leaders for 2.3. However, there is no easy way to simulate the Polish liberum veto that greatly contributed to its downfall. They will also be struck by three (optional) Cossack uprisings 1648-1666.
I have already tweaked the dynamism a bit for them in 2.3.
You mean the Lesser Antilles I take it. Yes, that would be pretty historical. Is that the only change you made? I suppose you would have to remove the "carribean" region and replace it with specific areas to accomplish this...
Ok.
Ok.
Yes, I've also noticed this... I will reactivate all Russian leaders for 2.3. However, there is no easy way to simulate the Polish liberum veto that greatly contributed to its downfall. They will also be struck by three (optional) Cossack uprisings 1648-1666.
I have already tweaked the dynamism a bit for them in 2.3.
You mean the Lesser Antilles I take it. Yes, that would be pretty historical. Is that the only change you made? I suppose you would have to remove the "carribean" region and replace it with specific areas to accomplish this...
Ok.
Ok.
Check out this entry in Revolt.txt
SPR = {
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1492 }
expirydate = { day = 31 month = december year = 1792 }
minimum = { 362}
extra = { 362 }
capital = 362
group = latin
}
It can cause crashes to desktop!
SPR = {
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1492 }
expirydate = { day = 31 month = december year = 1792 }
minimum = { 362}
extra = { 362 }
capital = 362
group = latin
}
It can cause crashes to desktop!
Doomy,
In 2.2c the Platinat is not a playable country. that is to say it is not a 'selectable' country. Please add it to the list when you get a chance.
Thanks,
ErrantOne
In 2.2c the Platinat is not a playable country. that is to say it is not a 'selectable' country. Please add it to the list when you get a chance.
Thanks,
ErrantOne
China quickly researches up to level 11 land tech and "explores" dai viet and ayutthaya. One of the reasons I want them removed.