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- I fully implemented Ethiopia now. (Cheers, McGuinn, this shield is the best one in the game! :))
- I fully implemented Vietnam now. I used MAH and discovered, that they have exactly the same tech restrictions as China and Japan. They can develop army and navy tech, but are not able to produce any buildings. That´s fine with me, because in fact I was worried about having a fullblown 'developer' bordering China.

Hartmann
 
On random crashes: I also experience occasional random crashes with our patch, but mostly on 'high speed' settings. Doomie and me did alot of typing and although we were very cautious and wary, maybe we have left a typo (or two?) somewhere. I will check all the files, if I have all the other things done. In the meantime it´s a good idea to have one autosave per anno. Btw a crash seems not to be easily reproducible. In all the cases I had, everything was fine when I reloaded.

I also urge You people to install the patch exactly as the readme says with ALL the files and the adding of the missing SPR line to the tag section of text.csv.

Hartmann
 
Originally posted by Hartmann:
I posted this a page ago, but as people seem to have missed it, here it is again:
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And as Yanelis and I both pointed out, we have changed the text.csv file, adding the extra line and modifying two others.

I think this could be an excel problem. I imagine that most people don't have excel and just edit it with an editor. I used excel, and somehow something goes screwy. I tried deleting my text.csv, restored the old version from backup and re-edited with an editor (wordpad), and hey presto, it works. :)

Still get the random crashes though :(
 
On Aq Qoyunlu/Savavids problem:

I tested some settings:

First, the 'neat' solution: Merging Persia and Iraq from the start with a stability problem (-3) and with the Savavids taking over from the White Sheep at the appropriate time in the monarch file. I left the Persian capital at Isfahan, because it was moved there later anyway and we cannot simulate such things in the game. Now, whereas all this is historically o.k., I was under the impression, that the region is more boring in this setting (it´s actually like Persia has already conquered Irak). Even the -3 stability does not really make a difference.

Second solution: Gave the Aq Qoyunlu more provinces to the north to start with. This included some 'swiss cheese'. In the game, Persia seems too weak (no matter what) and sometimes the situation in the region develops quite weirdly.

I will definitely scrap the 'swiss cheese' version. So, I want to hear Your opinion: Should I go

- for the first option

or

- leave everything as it is (just renaming Irak to Aq Qoyunlu)?

The first option of merging Iraq and Persia is historically more correct, but leaving everything as it is is better (i.e. less boring) in gameplay terms. I´m undecided...

Hartmann
 
Originally posted by Rogan:
I think this could be an excel problem. I imagine that most people don't have excel and just edit it with an editor. I used excel, and somehow something goes screwy. I tried deleting my text.csv, restored the old version from backup and re-edited with an editor (wordpad), and hey presto, it works. :)

Still get the random crashes though :(
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Hmm, I edited text.csv using ordinary wordpad myself (with no problems). So we should maybe include this suggestion in the readme. Actually, I only use excel-type editors when editing the diplomaticalmatrix.csv. But it works for You now, which is the only thing of real importance. :)

Actally, after having added Ethiopia and Vietnam, I need kind of a break. Maybe I will now search our files for possible crash-related typos before implementing any other changes.

Hartmann



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Originally posted by McGuinn:
Cheers Hartmann. The single stripe flag is quite easy to do. I've just made one and you can see it at my website.
I'll admit a dragon would be cooler but I don't want to use the Chinese one. I also read the same article as Dipo and it also mention the unicorn, tortoise and some fourth animal I can’t remember right now. But no picture!

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As Vietnam is now ready (from my side), we eagerly await the shields/flags for download - be them 'single stripe' or 'unicorn/tortoise/dragon/hedgehog/skunk/pussycat/mad cow...' :D

Cheers, Hartmann
 
Originally posted by Hartmann:
So, I want to hear Your opinion: Should I go

- for the first option

or

- leave everything as it is (just renaming Irak to Aq Qoyunlu)?

The first option of merging Iraq and Persia is historically more correct, but leaving everything as it is is better (i.e. less boring) in gameplay terms. I´m undecided...
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I'm for the first one. And use Irak available minor to introduce a new minor.

Regards

Raf
 
Originally posted by Raphael:
I'm for the first one. And use Irak available minor to introduce a new minor.

Regards

Raf
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We now have a quite peculiar situation: As Irak, Cyrenaica and Tripolitania can be dropped in theory, we could introduce three new moslem minors. But we actually have only need for one (Uzbeks) at the moment (IF we can locate them on the map, that is). On the other hand, we have no 'latin' tag (graphics!) to spare for 'revolter' countries like Mexico, Brazil and Argentina ... :(

Hartmann


[This message has been edited by Hartmann (edited 06-02-2001).]
 
Thanks! I had the Dai Viet set ready yesterday but I wanted to test it in game first. The zip is available now.

..and I hope you'll enjoy your well deserved break. Impressive work with the patch.

Jeremy

Originally posted by Hartmann:
As Vietnam is now ready (from my side), we eagerly await the shields/flags for download - be them 'single stripe' or 'unicorn/tortoise/dragon/hedgehog/skunk/pussycat/mad cow...' :D

Cheers, Hartmann
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[This message has been edited by McGuinn (edited 06-02-2001).]
 
Thanx McGuinn! The flag comes at exactly the right time. :)

And I now really need a break: It took me FIVE hours to check all the files for typos. But at least I can report now: I ran a game with our patch from 1492 to 1792 on 'high speed' and there was not even a single crash! :) :) :)

I think, I will send this version to Doomie soon. :)

Hartmann
 
Originally posted by GulFalco:
Uzbek Monarchs:

Shaibani 1492 to 1509 3/4/7
Shaibani 2 1510 to 1549 3/3/4
Abdullah 1550 to 1597 4/6/5
Abdullah 2 1597 to 1608 2/3/6
Iman Kuli 1608 to 1646 3/4/5
'chaos' 1647 to 1671 3/2/4
Ayuka 1672 to 1722 5/3/5
The Russian Czars thereafter, giving them those stats seems like rewarding them for being annexed, how about 'Governor' 3/3/3

Some info, all of these monarchs are worthy of a leader file, but to help simulate the expansion/contraction nature of the Uzbek state will only select 4, but make them conq. Also, I am dumming down their stats. Shaibani drove Babur, 5/5/4/2, from his home area into Afganistan, Abdullah to was quite successful against the Persians, Iman Kuli was a great raider, and Ayuka fought Peter to a standstill, it was only in his old age that he submitted. For the long reigns of Kuli and Ayuka, I am just giving them the first half as leaders.

4 Conquistadores

Shaibani 1492 to 1509, 4/3/5/0
Abdullah 2 1597 to 1608, 3/2/4/1
Iman Kuli 1608 to 1628, 5/1/4/0
Ayuka 1672 to 1692, 4/2/5/0
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Just thought it was a good time to repost this.



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History is a lie agreed upon. Napoleon
 
Originally posted by McGuinn:
Yannelis: Thanks. Very kind of you. Much appreciated.

Dipo: There's some flags in this pic from the battle of Bach Dang.
Can't really see what the crest looks like. Any ideas??
http://uk.geocities.com/jw_mcguinn/page4.html

Now, how 'bout 'dem Uzbeks?
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Hey, nice picture, where'd you get it?

As you probably know, the Battle of the Bach-Dang River happened more than 450 years before the start of the game, in 938. The story is famous, with the Vietnamese planting bamboo stakes in the riverbed to pierce the hulls of the invading Chinese navy (now model that! :))

I too can't make out the banners (the Vietnamese are on the land, the Chinese in the ships) but they look similar to a fuzzy gif I found on this site: http://coombs.anu.edu.au/~vern/ban_do/ban_do.html
except the color pattern seems to be reversed. The Bach Dang flags and the one on the Australian site we unfortunately don't know whether or not they were still in use/were in use in 1492.

I'm emailing a grad student friend who may or may not know what the actual imperial banner is. If he gets back to me, I'll let you know.
 
I now succeeded in downloading and extracting the Dai Viet shields/flag. So I will complete IGC 1.3 this evening. :)
We will have to wait for Doomie´s return before publishing, though. He maybe wants to add some changes of his own first.

Regards, Hartmann
 
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