No.
This, we can do easily. Hartmann?
Perhaps... We would have to make sure that the Incas could afford the upkeep though.
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No.
This, we can do easily. Hartmann?
Perhaps... We would have to make sure that the Incas could afford the upkeep though.
Originally posted by Doomdark
This, we can do easily. Hartmann?
Aye, aye sir. It shall be done!
Hartmann
...while your doing the American forts how about upgrading all the Chinese/Japanese forts to level 3. This can't hurt the AI should it?
This can't hurt the AI should it?
I do not recall if this has been discussed before but I was just reading on another thread about eliminating the pirates because they become way to powerful too early.
I think this would be good for the igc.
It would open up a slot for another country (correct?) and pirates might actually serve better as events, such as small fleets being sunk, traders being burnt out, ports being blockaded/waters raided for set time period (this way trade is still affected), and colonies being seized (maybe even raised) represented by a switch to a rebel province controlled by rebels or if just raided have rebels pop up and cause trouble (this might help stir a revold in mexico).
Altogether this would make the carribean harder to control. And the smaller islands could change hands back and forth without the need to declare war constantly, as did happen in a few places. IMO it makes more sense this way, especially if it allows for another country to start or rebel during the igc.
Also certain historical raids could be placed as events (is it possible to link an event to a province instead of a nation?). I would love to have to watch the spanish try to hold onto its gains instead of constantly improving them.
I think this would be more realistic in the long run
-ullen
I think this would be good for the igc.
It would open up a slot for another country (correct?) and pirates might actually serve better as events, such as small fleets being sunk, traders being burnt out, ports being blockaded/waters raided for set time period (this way trade is still affected), and colonies being seized (maybe even raised) represented by a switch to a rebel province controlled by rebels or if just raided have rebels pop up and cause trouble (this might help stir a revold in mexico).
Altogether this would make the carribean harder to control. And the smaller islands could change hands back and forth without the need to declare war constantly, as did happen in a few places. IMO it makes more sense this way, especially if it allows for another country to start or rebel during the igc.
Also certain historical raids could be placed as events (is it possible to link an event to a province instead of a nation?). I would love to have to watch the spanish try to hold onto its gains instead of constantly improving them.
I think this would be more realistic in the long run
-ullen
Don't think the Pirate tag works like a normal country. Even the Royalists didn't even work like the others.
just wishful thinking
but historical pirate events would be a great addition, though i must plead ignorance of any at current cuz i have never played spain
but historical pirate events would be a great addition, though i must plead ignorance of any at current cuz i have never played spain
Don't you hate it when you know you know something and can't think of it?
Anyway I do know of a few referances dealing with historical pirate attacks, but other than the fact that many of these were privateers i can't think of the exact examples off the top of my head! GRRR! if i remember i'll post them.
Anyway I do know of a few referances dealing with historical pirate attacks, but other than the fact that many of these were privateers i can't think of the exact examples off the top of my head! GRRR! if i remember i'll post them.
Don't know if this has been discussed in other threads, but here goes:
As we all know dealing with different religions in EU is way too easy. The only nations that might have problems are the ones who who have to handle 5 religions e.g Ottomans with sunni, shia, ortho., cath. and prot. (On an aside, the Ottomans really did have all those religions and didn't have much trouble delaing with them - this really should be an Ottoman special abilty.)
France on the other hand spent most of the 16th century with civil war along religious lines. But in EU this is too easy to avoid.
Now radically reforming the religion model probably has to wait until EU2, but something could/ should be made with France:
All reformed provinces of France should have a 3% revolt risk the 10 first years after the Calvin event, 2% the next 10, and 1% for the last ten years. Much similar to annexation revolts.
Is this doable in the IGC?
Cheers,
Vandelay
As we all know dealing with different religions in EU is way too easy. The only nations that might have problems are the ones who who have to handle 5 religions e.g Ottomans with sunni, shia, ortho., cath. and prot. (On an aside, the Ottomans really did have all those religions and didn't have much trouble delaing with them - this really should be an Ottoman special abilty.)
France on the other hand spent most of the 16th century with civil war along religious lines. But in EU this is too easy to avoid.
Now radically reforming the religion model probably has to wait until EU2, but something could/ should be made with France:
All reformed provinces of France should have a 3% revolt risk the 10 first years after the Calvin event, 2% the next 10, and 1% for the last ten years. Much similar to annexation revolts.
Is this doable in the IGC?
Cheers,
Vandelay
In the IGC, no. Johan would have to program this. But at the moment, other things seem more urgent to me. The bugslist grows and grows. Even 'old' and already fixed bugs spring up anew!
Hartmann
Hartmann
It works *almost* normally. But it doesn´t revolt outside it´s intended setting.
Hartmann
Would you mind explaining a bit? I'm trying to put the Royalists back into the ICG for a player-as-England scenario. I've tried using both the GRA and ROY tags and, although both seem to work, the Royalists seemed to pop up more easily with the GRA tag. I thought maybe it was just my imagination or chance, but your comment has made me curious.
Question: If my goal is to have the Royalists appear as often as possible, am I better off using the ROY tag or another one (like GRA)? Thanks.
I don´t know exactly what is up with the ROY tag (and probably the FPR and SPR tags, too.) I think, though, that they can only rebel once and that it happens under more severe conditions. I also think, that ROY probably does so only in England, because I could not get them to rebel as Serbia (in 1.7c) no matter what I did.
That´s why I use those tags only for implementing starters. It doesn´t matter, whether Ryazan after having been annexed will not come again. (Btw: Has anyone ever seen the Hugenottes emerge? I sometimes think, their appearance is *so* unlikely, that we should use this tag for something else - a starter, of course.)
Hartmann
That´s why I use those tags only for implementing starters. It doesn´t matter, whether Ryazan after having been annexed will not come again. (Btw: Has anyone ever seen the Hugenottes emerge? I sometimes think, their appearance is *so* unlikely, that we should use this tag for something else - a starter, of course.)
Hartmann
Never seen the Hugenots either. Using them as a starter tag wouldn't be a bad idea at all.
H - Like yourself, I have never have seen the Hugies appear in any game. But when the tag was Royalist (as in England) I never went through a game where they didn't appear. And, in most of those would end up controlling more of the island than England.
Also, Spain's conquest of the Aztecs is much less reliable since migrating from IGC 1.5x. Has anyone else noticed this? There has been no New Spain as there has never been a complete conquest of the Aztecs in the last several games.
Russia is on hormones. We used to lament that they didn't progress very well against tha Khanates before (circa 1.2 IGC) but with 1.8 they are on a tear in each game?
Another starter? My personal favorites would be revolters:
- Provence which I sorely miss and just wish there were some rep of the Langue d'Oc, Cathars, and the like in the game.
- Sardinia. It was among the more reliable revolters when Spain had a civil war or just very low stability. It also was difficult for anyone else to come and take bc of the high attrition on that island. Now Spain keeps it by default for the entire game.
Here is an aside you may like:
I was Uzbekistan in a game and I got maps from Persia and was able to see that Poland suddenly became 'France'. It must have acquired Poland through one of those dynastic events. SO France had this HUGE empire straddling each end of Europe and then after two years or so was putting down rebellions which later became a full-scale civil war! From this, a truncated 3-province Poland revolt nation and a 2-Province Ukraine revolter were formed and then Russia came in and ate two more provinces in war. It was much more exciting just watching this happen than 'managing' to survive as the Uzbeks.
Sadly, the Uzbeks perished from the earth at the hands of Persia and Sibir just a decade later so I could not follow it up - loss of my capital and control of all provinces is when I usually click 'surrender'.
Also, Spain's conquest of the Aztecs is much less reliable since migrating from IGC 1.5x. Has anyone else noticed this? There has been no New Spain as there has never been a complete conquest of the Aztecs in the last several games.
Russia is on hormones. We used to lament that they didn't progress very well against tha Khanates before (circa 1.2 IGC) but with 1.8 they are on a tear in each game?
Another starter? My personal favorites would be revolters:
- Provence which I sorely miss and just wish there were some rep of the Langue d'Oc, Cathars, and the like in the game.
- Sardinia. It was among the more reliable revolters when Spain had a civil war or just very low stability. It also was difficult for anyone else to come and take bc of the high attrition on that island. Now Spain keeps it by default for the entire game.
Here is an aside you may like:
I was Uzbekistan in a game and I got maps from Persia and was able to see that Poland suddenly became 'France'. It must have acquired Poland through one of those dynastic events. SO France had this HUGE empire straddling each end of Europe and then after two years or so was putting down rebellions which later became a full-scale civil war! From this, a truncated 3-province Poland revolt nation and a 2-Province Ukraine revolter were formed and then Russia came in and ate two more provinces in war. It was much more exciting just watching this happen than 'managing' to survive as the Uzbeks.
Sadly, the Uzbeks perished from the earth at the hands of Persia and Sibir just a decade later so I could not follow it up - loss of my capital and control of all provinces is when I usually click 'surrender'.
H - Like yourself, I have never have seen the Hugies appear in any game. But when the tag was Royalist (as in England) I never went through a game where they didn't appear. And, in most of those would end up controlling more of the island than England.
Exactly my experience
Also, Spain's conquest of the Aztecs is much less reliable since migrating from IGC 1.5x. Has anyone else noticed this? There has been no New Spain as there has never been a complete conquest of the Aztecs in the last several games.
To make sure, New Spain is possible, I played until they did appear once. It´s not so likely, though. Especially as there seems to be a bug giving Spain -9 religion modifier in pagan territories (just check the values from time to time). In my games, they usually conquer the Aztecs, though.
Russia is on hormones. We used to lament that they didn't progress very well against tha Khanates before (circa 1.2 IGC) but with 1.8 they are on a tear in each game?
Yeah, we are already thinking of feasible ways of downtoning them a bit.
Another starter? My personal favorites would be revolters:
That´s no problem in principle and along my lines. Whereas the FPR has to be implemented as a starter, I could substitute it for a tag for an already existing nation, then take that free universally working tag and substitute it for the tag of another nation, which uses a tag of an old revolter (SAR, PRO) and then implement that old revolter again. It´s just laborious and as I do not have much time at the moment, it will have to wait a bit.
I was Uzbekistan in a game and I got maps from Persia and was able to see that Poland suddenly became 'France'. It must have acquired Poland through one of those dynastic events. SO France had this HUGE empire straddling each end of Europe and then after two years or so was putting down rebellions which later became a full-scale civil war! From this, a truncated 3-province Poland revolt nation and a 2-Province Ukraine revolter were formed and then Russia came in and ate two more provinces in war. It was much more exciting just watching this happen than 'managing' to survive as the Uzbeks.
Sadly, the Uzbeks perished from the earth at the hands of Persia and Sibir just a decade later so I could not follow it up - loss of my capital and control of all provinces is when I usually click 'surrender'.
Wheee!
Hartmann
Exactly my experience
Also, Spain's conquest of the Aztecs is much less reliable since migrating from IGC 1.5x. Has anyone else noticed this? There has been no New Spain as there has never been a complete conquest of the Aztecs in the last several games.
To make sure, New Spain is possible, I played until they did appear once.
It´s not so likely, though. Especially as there seems to be a bug giving Spain -9 religion modifier in pagan territories (just check the values from time to time). In my games, they usually conquer the Aztecs, though.Russia is on hormones. We used to lament that they didn't progress very well against tha Khanates before (circa 1.2 IGC) but with 1.8 they are on a tear in each game?
Yeah, we are already thinking of feasible ways of downtoning them a bit.
Another starter? My personal favorites would be revolters:
That´s no problem in principle and along my lines. Whereas the FPR has to be implemented as a starter, I could substitute it for a tag for an already existing nation, then take that free universally working tag and substitute it for the tag of another nation, which uses a tag of an old revolter (SAR, PRO) and then implement that old revolter again. It´s just laborious and as I do not have much time at the moment, it will have to wait a bit.
I was Uzbekistan in a game and I got maps from Persia and was able to see that Poland suddenly became 'France'. It must have acquired Poland through one of those dynastic events. SO France had this HUGE empire straddling each end of Europe and then after two years or so was putting down rebellions which later became a full-scale civil war! From this, a truncated 3-province Poland revolt nation and a 2-Province Ukraine revolter were formed and then Russia came in and ate two more provinces in war. It was much more exciting just watching this happen than 'managing' to survive as the Uzbeks.
Sadly, the Uzbeks perished from the earth at the hands of Persia and Sibir just a decade later so I could not follow it up - loss of my capital and control of all provinces is when I usually click 'surrender'.
Wheee!
Hartmann
An option to select among the various revolters, including an option to return the Royalists to the game (mostly for use when playing as England).
Yes Doomie - so cool !!!
I would just like the flexibility of toggling the choice of nations appearing in the game if possible. For example, I think my favorite version of the IGC right now is 1.5e. Is it possible for you to have the IGC config tool do something like that where I could pick Provence and Sardinia as revolters?
I am reluctant to offer additional suggestions as I am just grateful you and Hartmann and McGuinn are willing to continue your fine work and I don't wish to appear presumptuous.
Perhaps you might indicate which features you were entertaining as possibly including in the config program and we could respond with preferences?
I would just like the flexibility of toggling the choice of nations appearing in the game if possible. For example, I think my favorite version of the IGC right now is 1.5e. Is it possible for you to have the IGC config tool do something like that where I could pick Provence and Sardinia as revolters?
I am reluctant to offer additional suggestions as I am just grateful you and Hartmann and McGuinn are willing to continue your fine work and I don't wish to appear presumptuous.
Perhaps you might indicate which features you were entertaining as possibly including in the config program and we could respond with preferences?