Improvements, balance issues.

[RedPhoenix]

Right now I think Savoy really needs a big boost in events and leaders.

Sicily also desperately needs admirals, explorers and conquistadors so it could become the naval nation it was intended to have a chance to be.

Also it would be very good to see some other princedoms in germany perhaps given a chance to become something.


Also the iberian question might be the most interesting one, anyway I would love to see the iberian catholics playable and with some kind of chances against the muslim juggernaut of Granada. Expand by a province or 2 a few of the catholic minors in north iberia and give them good events and leaders. I'm sure they would have had great leaders, like in the past like Rodrigo de Vivár etc., as the struggle would have stretched out this long.

Really the iberian situation needs some work anyway, right now Granada gets it all, all to easy. As well as lots of explorers. And with the landbridge they get all the african manpower too.

Bavaria might be a bit too swarmed by leaders a bit silly they have a dozen leaders active all the time (maybe exaggeration but they have all the german leaders and more). Perhaps as suggested above, put some of the german leaders into another german power that could be created. Such as Köln and perhaps another one too. Well not all need to be big powers some could start only with 2-3 provinces but very nice leaderfile and events, with chances to build on that.

 

[RedPhoenix]

Also why does Brittany have Anglosaxon at the start? Shouldn't they only get it with the mastery of Britains event or something?

 

[Johan]

Maybe cornwall and Wessex should be gaelic from the start instead?
But actually.. Brittany loses the anglosaxon culture whenever they no longer control any provs on the Island.

 

[TheArchduke]

Maybe cornwall and Wessex should be gaelic from the start instead?
But actually.. Brittany loses the anglosaxon culture whenever they no longer control any provs on the Island.

Makes that one fairer.

The only thing I thought about was a possible gaelization of the regions held by Eire, Scotland, Brittany.

Maybe from the start or by event.

 

[unmerged(21937)]

I don't think England should be gaelized. Both Brittany and Scotland have anglosaxon and Eire does not have any cores beyond Wales, which is gaelic already.

 

[TheArchduke]

It´s not so much a scenario question, but a flavour question.

In Aberration for instance, english never would have been a language much in use. Wouldn´t it naturally decline?

 

[unmerged(21937)]

In Aberration for instance, english never would have been a language much in use. Wouldn´t it naturally decline?

Real-life example:

Finnish was a language used only by finnish peasantry after being conquered by Sweden in 12th century. It did not have a written form before 16th century (iirc) and even after that it was mostly used only by peasantry and other lower classes as upper classes used swedish. Still after all this, finnish still existed as the majority language of Finland in 19th century when upper classes started to get interested of it.

So, I don't think anglosaxon peasants would adopt the language of celtic ruling aristocracy, unless forced to.

 

[unmerged(28992)]

Finnish may be one example, but what about the decline of Scots Gaelic after several centuries of English domination? Welsh lost a lot of ground too before being the target of a strong revival movement towards the end of last century. In fact Anglo-Saxon was pretty heavily changed by the invasion of the french-speaking Normans and bears little resemblance to modern English...

 

[unmerged(21937)]

Finnish may be one example, but what about the decline of Scots Gaelic after several centuries of English domination? Welsh lost a lot of ground too before being the target of a strong revival movement towards the end of last century. In fact Anglo-Saxon was pretty heavily changed by the invasion of the french-speaking Normans and bears little resemblance to modern English...

Evil English homogenizes?

Well seriously, modern english is still a germanic language and resembles german much more than for example french does. Of course english also has much french elements too, but I rather see this process as anglosaxon adopting elements of their conquerors language to get a good whole.

I agree that welsh and scots gaelic did decline during english occupation, but I think that the important factor there was that there was no geographical boundaries between english and welsh, like there was between swedish and finnish and like there is in Aberration between majority of Eire and Brittany with anglosaxons. Scots slowly turning England gaelic would be reasonable, but I don't think that would be of any benefit to Scotland, which already has anglosaxon as state culture.

 

[Medicine Man]

Tonnes of good comments in this thread:

1) I think that a few more provinces in Britian and Gaul should be gaelic in Aberration. Particularly in Gaul -- as Sam Vines' MP testrun has shown, a single human player in Gaul is going to invariably become France mk II. We should do what we can to insure that this second-coming of France is not the war-machine it is in the GC.

Along the same lines, I would love to make Galicia (in Iberia) gaelic culture at the start of the Abe GC -- just to annoy the Sultan.

2) I think that Adana in Asia Minor should be orthodox as the start of the scenario again. This is just a little thing that bugs me. It should be possible for the Byzantines to make some use of these provinces if he doesn't have turkish culture.

3) I agree with Red Pheonix concerning Bavaria and her 100-something leaders. Bavaria needs a mighty military, but there should be limits. At the very least, they need to lose Fredrick the Great.

4) I actually kinda thought Sicily was in good shape for leaders. She has a near 100% coverage for generals (if you count monarchs, which I do), a fair number of admirals, and a small-but-able cadre of explorers starting about 1550~.

5) I agree about Savoy. So much potential but such a rough ride. When I get back to modding, I'd be happy to take a look at them.

6) The Byzantine Empire... well I know that Byak probably doesn't agree with me, but I'd like to add some more helpful events in for the Empire. They have a tough position to expand or colonize from, a rough event set, demanding research requirements, and a challenging domain to defend.

Just my opinion: If there is one country in Abe that should be a consistant 1st-tier nation, it should be the Byzantium. Even my beloved Granada should get smoked more often than them.

7) Speaking of Granada: I'm not really sorry that the Sultanate has a lot of strategic assets. True, they get conquistadors and explorers, but not until after the 1st tier colonizers have had their go. Colonization overseas is going to be slow for Granada anyhow.

What I do agree with Red Pheonix about is how early and easily Granada gets to exploit their assets.

The problem with Granada is really two-fold: First, there is no nation that can 'steal their thunder' so-to-speak. Other than Granada, no major nation has Iberian or even Berber culture, or any real reason to tangle with the Sunni giant. Second, they start off with a good-sized chunk of territory, comparable to any of the other 1st-tier nations (Byzantium, Hungary, Teutonic Order, Kaliphate), only Granada's lands are generally easier to defend or expand.

I have some pretty good ideas about how to make things more challenging for Granada and introduce some more viable nations in Iberia at the same time.

Cheers.

 

[TheArchduke]

I will check around a bit today and tomorow and keep those in mind.

Please more concrete suggestions if possible and catch me per icq if you want to help me.

EDIT:

MM, consider all positions covered except Granada and Byzantium, I am busy enough with other things already. Any help there is appreciated.