In Aegon's Conquest, the Crownlands should be created via decision

[dherve10]

It makes no sense that the de jure setup of the areas that become the crownlands just switch automatically when Aegon declares war. He should have to conquer these lands first and then have a decision to reorder the administrative districts into the Crownlands once he has defeated their rulers.

 

[blackninja9939]

It really makes no difference, once he settles down and has to found his capital they would be formed anyway and can be changed based on where he puts his capital

 

[dherve10]

It really makes no difference, once he settles down and has to found his capital they would be formed anyway and can be changed based on where he puts his capital

But what if he is defeated? I enjoy playing as the Durrandon line, and it's frustrating to beat Aegon but lose a good chunk of my land whether I beat him for not.

 

[blackninja9939]

I'll have a look at not having the de jure change until Aegon establishes his capital

 

[dherve10]

I'll have a look at not having the de jure change until Aegon establishes his capital

Cool, thanks. Would you consider only applying it to lands that he has conquered? As in, the Crownlands shouldn't get the Rainwood and Massey's hook if he never conquers the Stormlands.

 

[blackninja9939]

The only reason I am hesitant to do it as even if you win as say the Stormlands the event for the crownlands title to be conquered happens anyway if he attacks each area, also it make sure Aegon has some land to be directly his own if he wins. In the lore the crownland areas that were only recently conquered by each of those kings were visited first and gotten to swear to Aegon.

 

[dherve10]

The only reason I am hesitant to do it as even if you win as say the Stormlands the event for the crownlands title to be conquered happens anyway if he attacks each area, also it make sure Aegon has some land to be directly his own if he wins. In the lore the crownland areas that were only recently conquered by each of those kings were visited first and gotten to swear to Aegon.

Couldn't the movement of those lands happen as a win condition instead of a declare war condition?

 

[blackninja9939]

Couldn't the movement of those lands happen as a win condition instead of a declare war condition?

It isn't even moved in the declaration of war it is done when the event to choose westeros fires, I was working around with it and it does work fine the only issue is that generating the tooltips is annoying to do for the King's Landing and Dragonstone capital choices as I cannot just do a set tooltip it would have to be a bunch of ifs to see what is sworn to them and what is not but I'll have a look and if I like the way it looks will probably include it for the next update

 

[dherve10]

It isn't even moved in the declaration of war it is done when the event to choose westeros fires, I was working around with it and it does work fine the only issue is that generating the tooltips is annoying to do for the King's Landing and Dragonstone capital choices as I cannot just do a set tooltip it would have to be a bunch of ifs to see what is sworn to them and what is not but I'll have a look and if I like the way it looks will probably include it for the next update

Awesome, man. Thanks for considering the change.

 

[Arcvalons]

Related: When Aegon conquers Essos, he gets no crownlands, and in fact, if he decides to settle on Myr or Volantis, the previous rulers still keep most of their titles there. Could we please get an option to create a "crownlands" in the Disputed Lands?

 

[blackninja9939]

Related: When Aegon conquers Essos, he gets no crownlands, and in fact, if he decides to settle on Myr or Volantis, the previous rulers still keep most of their titles there. Could we please get an option to create a "crownlands" in the Disputed Lands?

The crownlands titles is superfluous in this case, Aegon just gets the title he settles at whilst letting the previous holder stay with the duchy to stay as a merchant republic, making the crownlands out of a few counties would be rather pointless when the existing title can just be transferred over

 

[SBerger]

It makes no sense that the de jure setup of the areas that become the crownlands just switch automatically when Aegon declares war. He should have to conquer these lands first and then have a decision to reorder the administrative districts into the Crownlands once he has defeated their rulers.

To be fair, I do notice many territories do fight you, so you technically do have to earn the Crownland duchies by conquest.

Also, if you choose to move your capital to Oldtown, the Crownlands we know from the books and lore get set to their regular de jure kingdoms, Riverlands and Stormlands.

 

[Wandering Sentinel]

Whichever location you pick as the capital of Westeros and the IT decides where the Crownlands would be, so I tend to view that until you choose to confirm the true to lore de jure Crownlands, that area is actually just the temporary holdings of Aegon until he selects a more permanent location. During the conquest you could assume it represents Aegon's foothold on the mainland instead of a permanent royal territory or demesne.