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I cant undestand why, when I win a battle and demand indemnities (250 ducats for every star) an other state;
I dont recived the total amount. For example; I win a war against France and demand 1000 ducats (250 for each star) and then France accept the peace offer and i dont recived any money. Why?
Please explain me the answer with easy words, because I dont speak very well english.
Thanks.
Conde D. de Olivares.
 
The computer nations sometimes make peace by promising to pay money they do not have. They promise 250 ducats but they have nothing so they do not pay. I think this is being fixed in the new patch.

One thing you can do is to always make peace early in the year -- in January, if possible -- so that the computer nation is more likely to have some money.
 
AI nations will never pay more money than they currently possess. This is to prevent a player from taking the capital of a nation (especially a one-province minor) and then extorting enormous sums of money from the peace settlement. Just don't ask for more than 250 ducats, unless you're at the start of the year, in which case you might want to ask for 500 ducats. Use the rest of your stars for provinces.
 
Originally posted by Dark Knight
AI nations will never pay more money than they currently possess. This is to prevent a player from taking the capital of a nation (especially a one-province minor) and then extorting enormous sums of money from the peace settlement. Just don't ask for more than 250 ducats, unless you're at the start of the year, in which case you might want to ask for 500 ducats. Use the rest of your stars for provinces.
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I understand this desire but you need to have some mechanism to get cash for a win because taking a province is often not in your interest. I don't think that winning a war and leaving with nothing was on the agenda all too often during this era. The machine should be able to take out a loan to pay you off.

Sure the system can be abused but going to war over and over for money is gonna make you very unpopular and kill your stability. Then again, powermongers will exploit all kinds of loopholes to win so I don't think building rules to stop players but being lame is such a good idea.
 
Sidney,
I think there needs to be some limit to how much a country can be forced to pay for reasons of both realism and gameplay. However, you're right that 250 ducats in every situation is too low. A better solution would be if the money demanded per star was some proportion of the other country's income so that way one-province minors wouldn't have to pay as much in indemnities as France or Spain. AI countries would have to take loans to get this amount, so there might still have be a limit on what maximum proportion of their income they could be forced to pay, but for large, prosperous nations, the maximum amount of money would be much greater than 250 ducats.
 
Waiting until January will not help againt a human opponent. I offered a peace treaty to frace in exchange for 500 gp one early, balmy January morning. After not getting a reply, I captured 7 of his provinces includung Ille de France. A cold and wintry November, almost two years after my peace offer, he accepts it, giving me not the 500 I had requested, but the 11 he happened to have. He had not seen the peace offer for the entire war. There should be an expiration of the peace offer after a month or so to prevent the sort of physical abuse I felt compelled to administer to the human France player after his most wretched abuse of the diplomatic system.
 
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