Innovative/Ahistorical Game

[Hive]

Well then would they see the need for a grandalliance. Powerbalance my dear Hive. Team up with your weaker neighbourgh to take out your stronger neighbourgh.

Both Spain and OE would have to be pretty damn strong in order for a France-Austria alliance to be countered... and this would also require *all* players to care about game balance. In many cases, the players for nations like England and Sweden wouldn't give a damn about this.

 

[Ampoliros]

Maybe that's because we live in an era of cooperation? People seems more than happy to build team for the whole game and try to control the game.

Maybe we need player that pursue glory rather than power.

Usual sentence are like : "No need to attack him, his provinces are useless to me". So what?

You needn´t bluntly conquer territory to achieve glory. I for one find a gigantic, oversized juggernaut distatefull.
Likewise you needn´t ally with the other major powers and then torture the little ones for that IS boring.

What I always try to accomplish when playing EU II MP is to create a completely balanced out situation, in which the only decisive power is me. To achieve this I do not need to become über. What I have to do is decrease the power of my competitors and increase the leverage of those nations I benefit from. Divide et impera, et cetera...
More often than not this policy fails but when it succeeds it creates both an exciting campaign as well as a very powerfull empire for me.

I truly believe that the fundamental mistake many players here make is that they view power as absolute when really it´s not.
It´s relative. It´s also always fluent, everchanging and thus one must constantly adapt to new situations, new power corelations.

Finaly, I do not believe that gangbangs are gamey. I believe something similar as R.Y.O.K.E.N. does, in that gangbangs result from a failure in diplomacy. Some nations, namely Austria, Poland and France are more prone to be gangbanged than, say, England, Russia or Sweden. Hence players in the said countries should be VERY sensitive towards changes, should always be active diplomatically, sounding out their neighbours, trying to gather information as to their plans.
In general I view diplomacy as the most important aspect of EU II MP.
And in my (admittedly limited) experience here it has come to my notice that those who are gangbanged are most always those who are passive on the diplomatic front, be it either due to laziness or inexperience. Well not always mind you. You can be some sort of reanimated Bismarck and will still get ganged in the end. It just happens. It´s bad luck or a misfortune. But you can minimize both the frequency of gangbangs and the effect these have by cautious, intelligent, preemptive and proactive diplomacy.

 

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You needn´t bluntly conquer territory to achieve glory. I for one find a gigantic, oversized juggernaut distatefull.

But conquering a few select provinces for no reason apart from the hell of it and the glory is kinda fun at times

 

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You needn´t bluntly conquer territory to achieve glory. I for one find a gigantic, oversized juggernaut distatefull.
Likewise you needn´t ally with the other major powers and then torture the little ones for that IS boring.

What I always try to accomplish when playing EU II MP is to create a completely balanced out situation, in which the only decisive power is me. To achieve this I do not need to become über. What I have to do is decrease the power of my competitors and increase the leverage of those nations I benefit from. Divide et impera, et cetera...
More often than not this policy fails but when it succeeds it creates both an exciting campaign as well as a very powerfull empire for me.

I truly believe that the fundamental mistake many players here make is that they view power as absolute when really it´s not.
It´s relative. It´s also always fluent, everchanging and thus one must constantly adapt to new situations, new power corelations.

Finaly, I do not believe that gangbangs are gamey. I believe something similar as R.Y.O.K.E.N. does, in that gangbangs result from a failure in diplomacy. Some nations, namely Austria, Poland and France are more prone to be gangbanged than, say, England, Russia or Sweden. Hence players in the said countries should be VERY sensitive towards changes, should always be active diplomatically, sounding out their neighbours, trying to gather information as to their plans.
In general I view diplomacy as the most important aspect of EU II MP.
And in my (admittedly limited) experience here it has come to my notice that those who are gangbanged are most always those who are passive on the diplomatic front, be it either due to laziness or inexperience. Well not always mind you. You can be some sort of reanimated Bismarck and will still get ganged in the end. It just happens. It´s bad luck or a misfortune. But you can minimize both the frequency of gangbangs and the effect these have by cautious, intelligent, preemptive and proactive diplomacy.

Exactly my view.

especially this :

"What I always try to accomplish when playing EU II MP is to create a completely balanced out situation, in which the only decisive power is me. To achieve this I do not need to become über. What I have to do is decrease the power of my competitors and increase the leverage of those nations I benefit from."

 

[arcorelli]

Both Spain and OE would have to be pretty damn strong in order for a France-Austria alliance to be countered... and this would also require *all* players to care about game balance. In many cases, the players for nations like England and Sweden wouldn't give a damn about this.

In that case you could need to entice England and Sweden with some goodies then. But if your argument is 'balance' then prolly will not work. And then, with reason, since no player should be that worried about balance per se. Is all about getting powerful (and limiting the power of others in the meantime).

Well, Ampoliros put it better anyway.

 

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Well, evacuing balance of power in our reasoning sounds like "Chicken without heads".