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Its Midnight Friday going into Saturday morning. I woke up fairly early yesterday and bought the game from EB at the mall around 4:00 pm and pretty much was into the tutorial within two hours of the purchase.

I also bought a brand new computer lounge chair from Big Lots for $60.00

I had to put it together to sit on, or I might have started sooner. It is a good thing I did as you will read why shortly.

Truth be told I did not plan on getting it yesterday. I went to the store to get my Bi-Monthly "Lineage Two" Game Card and while looking at the other computer games I saw this.

I recall when HOM-1 first came out a lopng time ago. I had to choose between it and another games. I remember thinking that this game might not be what I had hoped it was upon examining the box. That being something that would blow Axis and Allies and Third Reich away. (The Computer Versions; not the boxed ones.) I chose the other game that I had already sampled and was in the mood for.

A bad choice in retrospect.


I pretty much forgot about it till I saw HOI-2 come out, but alas I am on social security and I only had enough to afford my game card and Lineage Two has taken up all my game time for going on two years now anyway. So I just kept saying maybe I will get it next month. (month after month to myself) I had Lineage II consuming my interest anyway, so passing it over was easy back then.

Gurss what? I am severely burnt out on Lineage II right now.

Well; yesterday I saw it just as I was about to walk out the door with my Lineage Game Card.

In fact I did walk out and got half way to the mall exit and then turned around and went back for it.

$20.00 was too good to pass up I thought to myself even if I have to go without cigarettes for the last week of the month;-)

Well I sat down around 6:00 pm last night and I have not had any sleep in over 30 hours.

18 hours of pretty much straight play. A few hours for food and breaks split up in that time.

Heart Of Iron-2 blows "Third Reich" and "Axis and Allies" away in exactly the context I was hoping for.

It puts Gary Grigsby's "Pacific War" to Shame in scope, depth, graphics, programming and interface, but to be fair that was a game from another era.

It would take someone like Grigsby to out-do this classic.

The only other time I ever played a single game straight through for 18 hours in one sitting was in what I consider my all time favorite.

Arguably it was a bit harder to learn the interface of "Star Wars Rebellion" than to learn HOI-2, but it was well worth the effort just as it most definately is to learn "Heart Of Iron"; that is to any die hard fan of this genre of computer game.

It took me months to master a level of play with "Star Wars Rebellion" and "Axis and Allies" in order to compete online against the masters, but I eventually did.

It occurred to me that there are many similarities in the game mechanics between HOI and Star Wars Rebellion. There is also the obvious similarities in concept to Pacific War from all those years ago.

It puts all the componants of those games together and adds the flash and flair of all the fine tuning of the technical advances we have had in computer programing and hardware advances over the last decade.

I can honestly say that if I had not had that prior experience with "Rebellion" I would likely have had triple the trouble grasping HOI-2's interface. Rebellion was a great game, but there ever was only a small hardcore community that reached mastery of game. It was tough and was at the time regarded as having the hardest learning curve of any game ever to hit mainstream.

I pretty well was able to pick up the HOI-2 interface and the game as I have up to now played without ever reading the manual. (The Tutorial was helpful). Short and Sweet I would say and right to the point. Just enough to get you started so your not clueless.

It was not until I got the flow down many hours into a serious play that I began to look at the play book for details.

Finding this forum was also just as helpful as I did spend a good 2 hours referencing game play concepts from the many fine threads I have come across.

This particular sub forum is a cool favorite of mine already.

My greatest Compliments to the designers if HOI.

Had I known what I know now I would have slept outside the mall to get this game on the first day of its release just like I did with Rebellion years ago.

I would call it a masterpiece of thought provoking art.

Years from now someone will out-do HOI-2 just as Paradox Games outdid Gary Grigsby's "Pacific War" and Lucas Arts Star Wars Rebellion, but look how long it took. I won’t be holding my breath for anything thing better to come along.

Now I think I will go to sleep and continue later to give all the AAR on my first game.
 
Follow Up

Well I made two quick starts of the game that ended in quick defeat. That lasted about 2 hours. Then I began my serious attempt.

I decided early on to play as Germany to put me in the center Axis of the conflict so to speak.

I also thought it would insure that I would not be attacked early as Germany is the natural aggressor and I wanted to concentrate on learning first and trying to actually win second.

I am playing the 36 campaign.

Its September 1943 and I have still not been in a war.

Poland and Czechoslovakia are still there.

I took the provinces that were offered and opted out of annexing territory that might lead to war.

I later sided with Rumania in the land dispute with Hungary to effect less animosity towards Germany from the Allies.

I was a long way from being ready to enter combat as was made obvious by those first two quick attempt games where I made some attacks right away and got chewed up.

In effect I have been playing Germany as a DOVE.

I have a sizable army of roughly 30+ Infantry divisions researched to advanced and 9 advanced medium armor divisions. I started building early planning on taking down Poland, but at one point just before the end of 39 I noticed all my IC was gone and I was at a loss until I realized the ramifications of Partisan activity.

Germany had become completely dark red in every province.

I cancelled all of my builds and decided to avoid war at all costs at that point.

I planted divisions in every province to bring the country back under control. After that I decided to concentrate on economics, research, and building a Luftwaffe.

I have 15 TAC Bombers, 12 Fighter Interceptor, and 6 Fighter wings at the moment and they are all fully advanced in research.

I will soon have the ME-262 at my disposal and the TAC Bomber Comet at my to play with. My top research groups are working on that right now.

Somehow I missed CAS altogether so I don't have any Stukas, but hey; I never went to war anyway. Yet...

Japan is finally at war with the USA and is willing to join me as an ally @ 50% if I so choose.

Problem there might be that I have 150+ relations with the USA and 120+ with the Russia. France is at 60% and UK @ like 80%

Hungary and Rumania are my only allies and I have control of both of their militarys. I am working on Bulgaria and Italy. I had one opportunity to get Italy @ 25%, but failed and now the option is @ 0%. Best I could do was get a Non Aggression Pact with them despite their being 200+ relations. I have had Finland @ 200+ relations for a long time, but they won't come over.

My stockpiles are as follows.

Oil @ 65,000

Supplies @ 30,000

Metal @ 20,000

Rare Metals @ 25,000

Energy @ 300,000

Cold Hard Cash @ 5,000

My IC output is @ 220

A few months ago I geared up my production for 5 and 10 point static Anti Air defense in all provinces with 5+ Factories and I increased my Factories. to coincide with their completion in December 43.

As soon as that is done my research should be about ready and then I will begin to produce military assets to gear up for total war with my increased production capacity.

I mainly wrote this thread as an introduction of myself to the online community as I am a new player on the block. I hope to see you in an MP Game sometime soon.
 
What do you think ?

As I run a 3 Gig processor w/1 Gig RAM and have the fastest FIOS Fiber Optic Internet connection available I might could make a great host.

It is stable as you can get.

Much better than DSL, or Cable.

My location is Tampa, Fl. USA
 
Tris said:
As I run a 3 Gig processor w/1 Gig RAM and have the fastest FIOS Fiber Optic Internet connection available I might could make a great host.

It is stable as you can get.

Much better than DSL, or Cable.

My location is Tampa, Fl. USA

You would easily be able to host a game with those specs - they are well above the basic requirements.

Keep having fun :)
 
Tris said:
As I run a 3 Gig processor w/1 Gig RAM and have the fastest FIOS Fiber Optic Internet connection available I might could make a great host.
Welcome. You could indeed be a great host as there aren't that many active players with such good connections. If you want to get your feet wet with a good crowd then try the Monday campaign which resumes play tomorrow at 19:00 GMT = 14:00 EST. See the other threads here for details.

Andrew
 
Colonel Warden said:
Welcome. You could indeed be a great host as there aren't that many active players with such good connections. If you want to get your feet wet with a good crowd then try the Monday campaign which resumes play tomorrow at 19:00 GMT = 14:00 EST. See the other threads here for details.

Andrew

Thanks for the welcome, but I am closing this thread as I am pursuing it in the ARR Sub-Forum.