Is the existence of the Extra Administrative Realms category of Game Rules Paradox admitting the current situation of those realms is not ideal?

[Arcvalons]

Yes but the army is not able to negotiate or revolt if they spent way too long in the field, or turn against you if they stopped getting paid during campaigns.

I just remembered this was a feature in CK2. If you couldn't pay your mercs, there was a chance they joined the enemy, or worse, they attempted to seize one of your titles. So you had things like "Company of the Hat" as a blob on the map.

 

[peteoj]

I just remembered this was a feature in CK2. If you couldn't pay your mercs, there was a chance they joined the enemy, or worse, they attempted to seize one of your titles. So you had things like "Company of the Hat" as a blob on the map.

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Peak feature

 

[ray243]

Them removing the feature for CK3 is odd.

 

[peteoj]

Them removing the feature for CK3 is odd.

It makes sense when you realize the devs really really dread giving the player any sort of roadblock or tension.

 

[Mortmal]

paradox devs said they won't remove levies so that is the system we have to deal with. Now the best we can do is making them balance rather than realistic (impossible).

So what is their reasoning? In the current state of the game, you are better off ignoring the levies completely, as they will just suffer attrition while MAA will easily wreck them.

One thing I do not miss from CK2 is having to manually gather all the boats and levies, but one thing it did right was tying levies to your domain, with castles and temples providing better quality troops compared to cities. It should go back to that or at least be closer to it if they want to keep the system. Right now, not addressing it just feels like laziness.

 

[naq29]

So what is their reasoning? In the current state of the game, you are better off ignoring the levies completely, as they will just suffer attrition while MAA will easily wreck them.

One thing I do not miss from CK2 is having to manually gather all the boats and levies, but one thing it did right was tying levies to your domain, with castles and temples providing better quality troops compared to cities. It should go back to that or at least be closer to it if they want to keep the system. Right now, not addressing it just feels like laziness.

it seems they balance the warfare system around levy so it can't be removed.

 

[Scrambles]

What are you envisioning when you think of modular governments in a context like this? I'd love to hear an elevator pitch on the concept.

NO PLEASE DON'T LISTEN TO THE MODULAR ENJOYERS
MODULAR GOVERNMENTS WOULD BE A DISASTER AND TAKE AWAY FROM THE UNIQUENESS OF GAMEPLAY EXPERIENCE.

PLEASE SAY NO TO MORE MODULARITY I BEG YOU!!!!


In my opinion the only thing that would fix this issue is to rework Clan Government to be a sort of in-between government type between the succession struggles of Feudal and the general day to day ruling of Administrative. Islamic rulers did not own and manage land the way Western European Kingdoms did, and that applies to all of them, not just the Abbasids.

PLEASE EVEN IF ANOTHER CLAN REWORK IS A PIPE DREAM I AT LEAST ASK YOU TO NEVER LISTEN TO THE MODULARITY FOOLS. THEY WANT TO WATER DOWN OUR HANDCRAFTED GAMEPLAY EXPERIENCES!!!

 

[Bisonmask]

They kind of are. When you go into debt you get hit with progressively worse penalties to your levy size and reinforcement rate, while domestic revolts become progressively more likely.

Except you're never punished in the only way that matters: your personal Maa can't turn against you

I haven't done it in a while but you can run decades into debt with a sufficiently large Maa stack if you're not very good and never lose a single battle for long enough to win any war

The only problem you run into is that you can't start another after you win