Is there a use for Learning points after acquiring the educational trait?

[RelVleDy]

So the higher the Learning, the higher chance of acquiring a 4-star educational trait. That's great, but once you acquire the educational trait, doesn't this make the Learning stat redundant? Technology isn't a factor, and Learning does not affect my monthy piety or prestige gains. Is there something I'm missing?

 

[cosmeIII]

So the higher the Learning, the higher chance of acquiring a 4-star educational trait. That's great, but once you acquire the educational trait, doesn't this make the Learning stat redundant? Technology isn't a factor, and Learning does not affect my monthy piety or prestige gains. Is there something I'm missing?

I thought a character's learning influenced the growth of the children they tutor?

 

[RelVleDy]

I thought a character's learning influenced the growth of the children they tutor?

You mean like that event where you can choose whether your child receives an exceptional education, a decent education, etc.? If you pick the best option, I believe it gives +2 learning, so that basically confirms learning affects the educational trait, and if you search the realm and organize characters by their Learning stat, you'll notice the crappy ones all have low Learning.

I would imagine standard Conclave mechanics also apply to AGoT, but I can't confirm it, so I would imagine an Educator's learning doesn't mean anything, nor the Educator's educational trait; however, I have my suspicions Conclave still doesn't behave well with AGoT, so I could be wrong. I have routinely seen children acquiring incorrect childhood traits (ex. Pride never seems to result in both haughty AND brooding; only one or the other). Then there was the issue I raisedin another topic where characters are acquiring double educational traits while some characters are keeping their childhood traits into maturity. Basically, I don't trust AGoT with the new Conclave mechanics. Something funky is going on in the background with their coding.
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...traits-some-child-traits-not-evolving.922371/

This is an outdated article, but it says the lowest Learning your need to confirm a 4-star education is 15. Since this education system still seems to be in place, I assume it still applies.
https://www.reddit.com/r/CK2GameOfthrones/comments/2354bx/education_in_ck2_agot/

 

[Wandering Sentinel]

I have routinely seen children acquiring incorrect childhood traits (ex. Pride never seems to result in both haughty AND brooding; only one or the other)

From what I remember, you're not guaranteed to get both traits in vanilla anyways. The childhood focus you pick simply increases the chances of a child getting one of those traits, unless the GoT mod team changed that for this.

 

[RelVleDy]

From what I remember, you're not guaranteed to get both traits in vanilla anyways. The childhood focus you pick simply increases the chances of a child getting one of those traits, unless the GoT mod team changed that for this.

I feel like they did change it. For me, I have rarely, if ever, received both childhood traits from a focus selection. For example, if I pick Pride, I'll receive either Haughty or Brooding, but never both. In original CKII, it's true sometimes I would sometimes receive neither trait, but many other times, I'd receive both.

AGoT also seems to always provide three childhood traits, with one of those three being from the focus you selected, but again, never the two from the same focus. Therefore, this would be my advice to everyone playing AGoT: Always pick Duty for everyone. You're guaranteed to receive Conscientious because it's the only possible selection, and it will always result in either the Diligent, Temperate, or Just traits. Diligent and Just are especially good in AGoT, because they give +1 learning, and learning is crucial to promoting a stronger educational trait. The guardian trait associated with Conscientious is Just, so make sure your educator has Just. In vanilla CKII, the downside to Conscientious is you don't receive as many childhood educational traits, but in AGoT, you always seem to receive three, so this weakness doesn't apply to Conscientious. Furthermore, vanilla CKII improves the chances of acquiring a better educational trait with the traits Diligent, Quick and Genius, although I can't confirm whether this applies to AGoT yet.

Anyways, the whole Conclave educational system needs a rework in AGoT. It's not working the same way at all from vanilla CKII, but whether this was intentional from the developers or not, I cannot say. I'm just not sure I agree with the vision of AGoT's way of handling it.