I will be working on an AAR which involves the United States--as isolationist as possible, just to see how it will go. Hope to be able to make a good post soon. Keep an eye out...
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So are you going to ignore everything for the whole game and just sit on N. America and build up forces? That'd be cool.
Because it's a cool idea. It could show what might have happened if the US had stayed out of everything.
I guess it would be pretty historic, except I would assume that you would not support the UK/Russia at all.
Too bad the AI isn't good enough for Japan to launch good suprise attacks, as it is the game risks being hands off as the US.
Too bad the AI isn't good enough for Japan to launch good suprise attacks, as it is the game risks being hands off as the US.
Morpheus - Thanks for your vote of confidence, I hope it stands up to the expectations (mostly of myself).
Flashblade - I also wish the Japanese and even the Germans were more aggressive with things like that (i.e. the surprise attack).
Dan Cook - My sentiments exactly
Sorry guys for the delay in creating a new post. I may be able to post soon (i.e. by tomorrow evening). I really want to take time on this one, since I want to be careful not to leave anything out...
Thanks for your patience guys!
I don't want to give too much away. But I can safely say, in this game, I will be fully neutral as long as possible, just monitoring the war. When someone declares war on me, or, let's just say something else happens, then I will do what I can to bring my enemy to justice.
Looking forward to this one, but again, I just want to make it as good as I can. Thanks again everyone!!!
Flashblade - I also wish the Japanese and even the Germans were more aggressive with things like that (i.e. the surprise attack).
Dan Cook - My sentiments exactly
Sorry guys for the delay in creating a new post. I may be able to post soon (i.e. by tomorrow evening). I really want to take time on this one, since I want to be careful not to leave anything out...
Thanks for your patience guys!
I don't want to give too much away. But I can safely say, in this game, I will be fully neutral as long as possible, just monitoring the war. When someone declares war on me, or, let's just say something else happens, then I will do what I can to bring my enemy to justice.
Looking forward to this one, but again, I just want to make it as good as I can. Thanks again everyone!!!
From my experience, if USA doesn't declare war, it will be pretty safe for the entire war...with no war whatsoever...sorta like a hands-off game
AMERICA FOR AMERICA
The Interwar Period
The Great War ended nominally over on November 11, 1918. That was the date of the armistice, which only really meant that the guns were silenced for peace talks. Even though no battles were fought following the armistice, no official peace treaty was even offered until 1919. The Treaty of Versailles would settle the peace issue according to the victors' terms. The four major powers of the allies were the United States, Great Britain, France, and Italy.
"The Big Four" as they were called: Lloyd George of Britain, Orlando of Italy, Clemenceau of France, and Woodrow Wilson of the United States.
The war ended with land concessions by Germany and the break-up of the Austro-Hungarian empire into smaller states mostly based upon the ethnic populations. Turkey lost much of it's former lands as well. The treaty also gave provisions for allowed military strengths of both Germany and Austria, they being the major powers in the Central Power alliance. In addition, Germany was most impacted as far as reparations payments to the allied powers. Invariably, due to the language of the treaty, Germany was to take the blame for causing the war.
Political boundaries before and after the Great War.
The United States would stay out of the newly created League of Nations, created to prevent any future wars such as this last one. The unwillingness of the U.S. to join certainly can't be attributed to Wilson and his aggressiveness to convince the people that it was in the best interest of the nation to join--in fact, in September of 1919 he traveled 8000 miles, made 40 speeches in 29 cities in 22 days. The American population in general just wanted to secure it's own future before it went around policing the world. The United States ultimately signed a separate peace treaty with Germany, Austria, and Hungary in 1921. The United States would never join the League of Nations--ironically, it was Woodrow Wilson who came up with the concept for the League.
One way the United States would look to cause world peace would be through world-wide disarmament. One such act would be the Washington Conference of 1921-1922, which limited capital ship tonnage of leading naval powers. Another attempt would be the Kellogg-Briand Pact which went into effect in 1929. Those who signed agreed not to use war to settle problems.
Economically, the U.S. would find itself booming throughout the 1920s. The population was exploding (due in part to immigration). In the late 1920s, the stock prices were soaring. Unfortunately, the prices were not related to business activity. They were highly inflated, like a bubble ready to pop. In October of 1929, the needle found its mark. The Great Depression began. The worst of it wouldn't be over until after 1933. Nevertheless, economic problems would continue.
President Franklin Roosevelt would win the election of 1932, due much in part to the Great Depression and the people's lack of confidence in incumbent Herbert Hoover (who incidentally wasn't able to curb the depression). He believed his proposed New Deals would end the depression (or at least give respite). His policies would give jobs to the unemployed masses (at least on paper) at the expense of the taxpayers (actually causing large deficits).
Diplomatically, around the world, conflicts sprang up regardless of the policies of the League of Nations and the international pacts created to establish peace throughout the world. Peace of course through diplomacy was attempted, but with no show of force or even threat. One such occurrence was the Japanese invasion of Manchuria. This incident and subsequent occupation/puppetization made a mockery of the League of Nations. Then on October 2, 1935 Mussolini invaded Ethiopia. The League of Nations would also try unsuccessfully to peacefully settle this issue. Without the United States to solidify League policies, they felt they were powerless.
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A note of irony/coincidence:
The leaders of the nations of Germany and the United States at the time this story begins, were both "inaugurated" in January of 1933.
The Interwar Period
The Great War ended nominally over on November 11, 1918. That was the date of the armistice, which only really meant that the guns were silenced for peace talks. Even though no battles were fought following the armistice, no official peace treaty was even offered until 1919. The Treaty of Versailles would settle the peace issue according to the victors' terms. The four major powers of the allies were the United States, Great Britain, France, and Italy.
"The Big Four" as they were called: Lloyd George of Britain, Orlando of Italy, Clemenceau of France, and Woodrow Wilson of the United States.
The war ended with land concessions by Germany and the break-up of the Austro-Hungarian empire into smaller states mostly based upon the ethnic populations. Turkey lost much of it's former lands as well. The treaty also gave provisions for allowed military strengths of both Germany and Austria, they being the major powers in the Central Power alliance. In addition, Germany was most impacted as far as reparations payments to the allied powers. Invariably, due to the language of the treaty, Germany was to take the blame for causing the war.
Political boundaries before and after the Great War.
The United States would stay out of the newly created League of Nations, created to prevent any future wars such as this last one. The unwillingness of the U.S. to join certainly can't be attributed to Wilson and his aggressiveness to convince the people that it was in the best interest of the nation to join--in fact, in September of 1919 he traveled 8000 miles, made 40 speeches in 29 cities in 22 days. The American population in general just wanted to secure it's own future before it went around policing the world. The United States ultimately signed a separate peace treaty with Germany, Austria, and Hungary in 1921. The United States would never join the League of Nations--ironically, it was Woodrow Wilson who came up with the concept for the League.
One way the United States would look to cause world peace would be through world-wide disarmament. One such act would be the Washington Conference of 1921-1922, which limited capital ship tonnage of leading naval powers. Another attempt would be the Kellogg-Briand Pact which went into effect in 1929. Those who signed agreed not to use war to settle problems.
Economically, the U.S. would find itself booming throughout the 1920s. The population was exploding (due in part to immigration). In the late 1920s, the stock prices were soaring. Unfortunately, the prices were not related to business activity. They were highly inflated, like a bubble ready to pop. In October of 1929, the needle found its mark. The Great Depression began. The worst of it wouldn't be over until after 1933. Nevertheless, economic problems would continue.
President Franklin Roosevelt would win the election of 1932, due much in part to the Great Depression and the people's lack of confidence in incumbent Herbert Hoover (who incidentally wasn't able to curb the depression). He believed his proposed New Deals would end the depression (or at least give respite). His policies would give jobs to the unemployed masses (at least on paper) at the expense of the taxpayers (actually causing large deficits).
Diplomatically, around the world, conflicts sprang up regardless of the policies of the League of Nations and the international pacts created to establish peace throughout the world. Peace of course through diplomacy was attempted, but with no show of force or even threat. One such occurrence was the Japanese invasion of Manchuria. This incident and subsequent occupation/puppetization made a mockery of the League of Nations. Then on October 2, 1935 Mussolini invaded Ethiopia. The League of Nations would also try unsuccessfully to peacefully settle this issue. Without the United States to solidify League policies, they felt they were powerless.
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A note of irony/coincidence:
The leaders of the nations of Germany and the United States at the time this story begins, were both "inaugurated" in January of 1933.
Preface - The State of the United States Armed Forces - 1936
After the Great War, the United States sent occupation troops into Germany. The last of these troops left in 1923. After this time, the U.S. Army was demobilized to under 100,000 troops. By 1936, the Armed Forces of the United States was in a weakened condition with outdated equipment. A list of the forces available as of January 1, 1936 is as follows:
United States Army
1st Division "Big Red One"
C.O. Major General Walker
based in Norfolk, Virginia, USA
2nd Division "Indianhead"
C.O. Major General Cook
based in Boston, Massachussets, USA
3rd Division "Rock of the Marne"
C.O. Major General Sloan
based in Los Angeles, California, USA
1st Cavalry Division "The 1st Team"
C.O. Major General Eddy
based in Houston, TX, USA
Philippine Division
C.O. Lieutenant General Wainright
based in Manila, Philippines
United States Army Air Force
Northeast Air District
C.O. Major General Krogstad
based in New York, New York, USA
-9th Bombardment Wing (B-18A Bolo)
-8th Fighter Wing (F3F-2 Flying Barrel)
Northwest Air District
C.O. Major General Cochran
based in Salt Lake City, Utah, USA
-7th Bombardment Wing (B-18A Bolo)
Southeast Air District
C.O. Major General Gee
based in Houston, Texas, USA
-1st Bombardment Wing (BFC-2 Goshawk)
Southwest Air District
C.O. Major General Collins
based in Los Angeles, California, USA
-6th Fighter Wing (F3F-2 Flying Barrel)
Panama Canal Air District
based in Colon, Panama
C.O. Major General Murray
-5th Bombardment Wing (B-18A Bolo)
2nd Heavy Bombardment Wing
C.O. Major General Brooks
based in Portland, Oregon, USA
United States Navy
ATLANTIC FLEET (CINCLANT, Admiral King)
based in Norfolk, Viriginia, USA
Battleship Division 3
C.O. Vice Admiral Edwards
-USS New Mexico - Colorado-Class BB
-USS Mississippi - Colorado-Class BB
-USS Idaho - Colorado-Class BB
Battleship Division 5
C.O. Vice Admiral Towers
-USS Arkansas - Arkansas-Class BB
-USS New York - Colorado-Class BB
-USS Texas - Colorado-Class BB
Cruiser Division 2
C.O. Vice Admiral McCain
-4 Light Cruisers - Omaha-Class CL
Cruiser Division 7
C.O. Vice Admiral Hewitt
-3 Heavy Cruisers - New Orleans-Class CA
USS Ranger Taskforce
C.O. Vice Admiral Turner
-USS Ranger - Yorktown-Class CV
-5 Destroyer Divisions - Clemson-Class DD
-1 Destroyer Division - Farragut-Class DD
Atlantic Submarine Division
C.O. Rear Admiral Comstock
-1 Submarine Division - S-Class SS (Coastal Type)
PACIFIC FLEET (CINCPAC, Admiral Stark)
based in Los Angeles, California, USA
Battleship Division 1
C.O. Admiral Kimmel
-USS Tennessee - Colorado-Class BB
-USS California - Colorado-Class BB
-USS West Virginia - Colorado-Class BB
-USS Maryland - Colorado-Class BB
-USS Colorado - Colorado-Class BB
Battleship Division 2
C.O. Vice Admiral Scott
-USS Oklahoma - Colorado-Class BB
-USS Nevada - Colorado-Class BB
-USS Arizona - Colorado-Class BB
-USS Pennsylvania - Colorado-Class BB
Scouting Division 1
C.O. Rear Admiral Henderson
-3 Light Cruisers - Omaha-Class CL
Cruiser Division 4
C.O. Vice Admiral Pye
-3 Heavy Cruisers - New Orleans-Class CA
Cruiser Division 5
C.O. Vice Admiral Moore
-3 Heavy Cruisers - New Orleans-Class CA
Cruiser Division 6
C.O. Vice Admiral Hill
-4 Heavy Cruisers - New Orleans-Class CA
Pacific Fast Carrier Group
C.O. Admiral Spruance
-USS Saratoga - Lexington-Class CV
-USS Lexington - Lexington-Class CV
-2 Heavy Cruisers - New Orleans-Class CA
-2 Destroyer Divisions - Clemson-Class DD
-1 Destroyer Division - Farragut-Class DD
Pacific Destroyers
C.O. Vice Admiral Barbey
-8 Destroyer Divisions - Clemson-Class DD
-1 Destroyer Division - Farragut-Class DD
Pacific Submarines
C.O. Rear Admiral English
-5 Submarine Divisions - S-Class SS (Coastal Type)
ASIATIC FLEET (Admiral Hart)
based in Manila, Philippines
-1 Heavy Cruiser - New Orleans-Class CA
-3 Destroyer Divisions - Clemson-Class DD
Asiatic Submarines
C.O. Rear Admiral Fife
-3 Submarine Divisions - S-Class SS (Coastal Type)
CARIBBEAN FLEET (Rear Admiral McCormick)
based in Colon, Panama
-1 Destroyer Division - Clemson-Class DD
-1 Submarine Division - S-Class SS (Coastal Type)
Warship Classes:
Colorado-Class Battleship (first ship, 1917)
Arkansas-Class Battleship (first ship, 1910)
Yorktown-Class Carrier (first ship, 1934)
Lexington-Class Carrier (first ship, 1922)
New Orleans-Class Heavy Cruiser (first ship, 1934)
Omaha-Class Light Cruiser (first ship, 1918)
Farragut-Class Destroyer (first ship, 1935)
Clemson-Class Destroyer (first ship, 1919)
S-Class Submarine (first ship, 1920)
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Most American equipment and ships are obsolete at this time. Training of the units is under par. Commanding officers are due to be reviewed. It appears that something needs to be done to keep the armed forces prepared in any event. Even though the policy is to keep the peace peacefully, many powers overseas are outclassing the Americans. Roosevelt and his cabinet appear to have much to investigate. With the focus of American foreign policy being that of disarmament, it appears that much investments will go into modernizing and maintaining a smaller force. Ultimately, the American public will hold the key as demands for social services and consumer goods are very high due to continued economic pressure.
Next: Chapter 1 - Unrest at home and abroad.
After the Great War, the United States sent occupation troops into Germany. The last of these troops left in 1923. After this time, the U.S. Army was demobilized to under 100,000 troops. By 1936, the Armed Forces of the United States was in a weakened condition with outdated equipment. A list of the forces available as of January 1, 1936 is as follows:
United States Army
1st Division "Big Red One"
C.O. Major General Walker
based in Norfolk, Virginia, USA
2nd Division "Indianhead"
C.O. Major General Cook
based in Boston, Massachussets, USA
3rd Division "Rock of the Marne"
C.O. Major General Sloan
based in Los Angeles, California, USA
1st Cavalry Division "The 1st Team"
C.O. Major General Eddy
based in Houston, TX, USA
Philippine Division
C.O. Lieutenant General Wainright
based in Manila, Philippines
United States Army Air Force
Northeast Air District
C.O. Major General Krogstad
based in New York, New York, USA
-9th Bombardment Wing (B-18A Bolo)
-8th Fighter Wing (F3F-2 Flying Barrel)
Northwest Air District
C.O. Major General Cochran
based in Salt Lake City, Utah, USA
-7th Bombardment Wing (B-18A Bolo)
Southeast Air District
C.O. Major General Gee
based in Houston, Texas, USA
-1st Bombardment Wing (BFC-2 Goshawk)
Southwest Air District
C.O. Major General Collins
based in Los Angeles, California, USA
-6th Fighter Wing (F3F-2 Flying Barrel)
Panama Canal Air District
based in Colon, Panama
C.O. Major General Murray
-5th Bombardment Wing (B-18A Bolo)
2nd Heavy Bombardment Wing
C.O. Major General Brooks
based in Portland, Oregon, USA
United States Navy
ATLANTIC FLEET (CINCLANT, Admiral King)
based in Norfolk, Viriginia, USA
Battleship Division 3
C.O. Vice Admiral Edwards
-USS New Mexico - Colorado-Class BB
-USS Mississippi - Colorado-Class BB
-USS Idaho - Colorado-Class BB
Battleship Division 5
C.O. Vice Admiral Towers
-USS Arkansas - Arkansas-Class BB
-USS New York - Colorado-Class BB
-USS Texas - Colorado-Class BB
Cruiser Division 2
C.O. Vice Admiral McCain
-4 Light Cruisers - Omaha-Class CL
Cruiser Division 7
C.O. Vice Admiral Hewitt
-3 Heavy Cruisers - New Orleans-Class CA
USS Ranger Taskforce
C.O. Vice Admiral Turner
-USS Ranger - Yorktown-Class CV
-5 Destroyer Divisions - Clemson-Class DD
-1 Destroyer Division - Farragut-Class DD
Atlantic Submarine Division
C.O. Rear Admiral Comstock
-1 Submarine Division - S-Class SS (Coastal Type)
PACIFIC FLEET (CINCPAC, Admiral Stark)
based in Los Angeles, California, USA
Battleship Division 1
C.O. Admiral Kimmel
-USS Tennessee - Colorado-Class BB
-USS California - Colorado-Class BB
-USS West Virginia - Colorado-Class BB
-USS Maryland - Colorado-Class BB
-USS Colorado - Colorado-Class BB
Battleship Division 2
C.O. Vice Admiral Scott
-USS Oklahoma - Colorado-Class BB
-USS Nevada - Colorado-Class BB
-USS Arizona - Colorado-Class BB
-USS Pennsylvania - Colorado-Class BB
Scouting Division 1
C.O. Rear Admiral Henderson
-3 Light Cruisers - Omaha-Class CL
Cruiser Division 4
C.O. Vice Admiral Pye
-3 Heavy Cruisers - New Orleans-Class CA
Cruiser Division 5
C.O. Vice Admiral Moore
-3 Heavy Cruisers - New Orleans-Class CA
Cruiser Division 6
C.O. Vice Admiral Hill
-4 Heavy Cruisers - New Orleans-Class CA
Pacific Fast Carrier Group
C.O. Admiral Spruance
-USS Saratoga - Lexington-Class CV
-USS Lexington - Lexington-Class CV
-2 Heavy Cruisers - New Orleans-Class CA
-2 Destroyer Divisions - Clemson-Class DD
-1 Destroyer Division - Farragut-Class DD
Pacific Destroyers
C.O. Vice Admiral Barbey
-8 Destroyer Divisions - Clemson-Class DD
-1 Destroyer Division - Farragut-Class DD
Pacific Submarines
C.O. Rear Admiral English
-5 Submarine Divisions - S-Class SS (Coastal Type)
ASIATIC FLEET (Admiral Hart)
based in Manila, Philippines
-1 Heavy Cruiser - New Orleans-Class CA
-3 Destroyer Divisions - Clemson-Class DD
Asiatic Submarines
C.O. Rear Admiral Fife
-3 Submarine Divisions - S-Class SS (Coastal Type)
CARIBBEAN FLEET (Rear Admiral McCormick)
based in Colon, Panama
-1 Destroyer Division - Clemson-Class DD
-1 Submarine Division - S-Class SS (Coastal Type)
Warship Classes:
Colorado-Class Battleship (first ship, 1917)
Arkansas-Class Battleship (first ship, 1910)
Yorktown-Class Carrier (first ship, 1934)
Lexington-Class Carrier (first ship, 1922)
New Orleans-Class Heavy Cruiser (first ship, 1934)
Omaha-Class Light Cruiser (first ship, 1918)
Farragut-Class Destroyer (first ship, 1935)
Clemson-Class Destroyer (first ship, 1919)
S-Class Submarine (first ship, 1920)
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Most American equipment and ships are obsolete at this time. Training of the units is under par. Commanding officers are due to be reviewed. It appears that something needs to be done to keep the armed forces prepared in any event. Even though the policy is to keep the peace peacefully, many powers overseas are outclassing the Americans. Roosevelt and his cabinet appear to have much to investigate. With the focus of American foreign policy being that of disarmament, it appears that much investments will go into modernizing and maintaining a smaller force. Ultimately, the American public will hold the key as demands for social services and consumer goods are very high due to continued economic pressure.
Next: Chapter 1 - Unrest at home and abroad.
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