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Kaiser Franz said:
i was wondering, as it takes like 46 minutes for me to be able to start to download the files for this mod, could you post the pictures of the post-ww1 German democratic leaders etc, so i could use them....as you remember a while back i said that Germany (GER) needed real SC,ML,SL ministers etc....so could you find it possible to post the minister pics so, i could use them etc.....seems strange, but i'd be greatful if you send me them, or even just post them..thanks a lot, great work your doing, well done...looks excellent work!
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:D - It'll take me about half an hour to upload all the pictures to the thread! However, if you PM me an email address, I can send you the zipped ministers picture file directly for you to use.
 
Jebus said:
Hey,

I've been gone for a while, and I'm excited to see how much this project has already evolved... Truly amazing. You're doing some great work here.

However, as a true partiot, I loaded up Flanders-Wallonien, and found quite a bit of logical fallacies.

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This is of course very micro-history 'n such, and I doubt if you would even be willing to invest so much thought into a small puppet like Flandern-Wallonien, which I would naturally not blame you. However, I do believe that the way they are represented in the mod currently is logically and even alternate-historical wise unfeasable, and that that should perhaps be corrected.

*edit* corrected some embarassing spelling errors.
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:D Many thanks - and microhistory is a booming historical field at the moment, so any support on this front is very good!

Very little actual research has gone into Flandern-Wallonien at the moment, so we can implement whatever stuff you have to suggest. Pretty much all of the ministers (except for HoS and HoG) are vanilla Belgian fascists -> So they're likely to be a bit odd and incompatible!

While seperating Flanders and Wallonia into two seperate puppet states might be historically more plausible, from a game play perspective it may be a bit problematic as the two states might not be too viable. They way I was guessing the political system of this single country 'federation' would operate would be essentially as two states with a common administrative / expert / military ruling organization, dominated by Flamands and imported Germans - and this would be what the cabinet would represent. So, it would probably mostly contain relatively conservative politicians (Germans would probably be reluctant to delegate power to radical nationalist groups...) - any suggestions for this?
 
T-hiddemen said:
Here you go. I left the roundel on the counter the same, it is the same color scheme . . . if you want something unique, let me know . . .


flag_synuj.bmp


shield_synuj.bmp


counter_synuj.bmp
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Ooooh, very nice - We like very much!
 
Evans said:
Say, isn't it a time this mod and All the Russia's lobbied for their own subforum? These posts are getting monumental in size! Even a small subforum might help direct work a bit better?
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True true, this may help a bit with the organization - and I believe we've already overtaken two of the existing sub-forums in post count, which isn't bad for two months of thread existence!

I may make inquiries shortly, but it may also be useful to find out why the Modern Day Scenario wasn't given a subforum when they started agitating for one a few months back...
 
Evans said:
Nice... bit white don't you think ;) j/k you can't get rid of the tricolour - it's far far too linked with revolution.
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:p I like having the existing or old-school national flags with the syndicalist symbols superimposed on them for both the Italian and the French flags! It keeps them sort-of appropriate for a variety of governments, and will make them a bit more easily recognisable on the map than a large variety of red-black ones would be!
 
Timotheos said:
First of all, three shiny new country descriptions for everyone:
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Secondly, I've been thinking about Canada's reactions to the US civil war to create some events. Now, I know that a while back it was agreed that Canada would oppose the rise of a syndicalist government. What I'd like though is opinions on how likely they would be to actually provide military support (either directly or through expeditionary forces) or to merely give diplomatic and economic support. Also, would it make a difference if the syndicalist government was the one actually elected in the elections.
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Many thanks for the descriptions - also don't forgot to include Sicilian Party Chairman Antonio Gramsci's doctrine of socialist 'Egemonia' in international relations! And this reminds me that I've got the AI based Balkan war events working reasonably in hands-off games, so Bulgaria will be in trouble come the next Alpha...

Re: Canadian Intervention - it's probably best if Canada just gets the option to occupy certain territories and send extensive supplies and volunteers to its backed faction in America, rather than directly intervene in the Civil War at the start. This is because if Canada is involved in a war with the CSA and annexes it (or occupies provinces when a non-ally annexes it), then it could lead to very weird post-war border changes - eg. see the results of direct foreign intervention against the Soviets in 'All the Russias'!
 
Berlichingen said:
I've been working on Hungarian politics, general concept, specifics and if this is approved will write up a description for them in the country info.
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Have an event having a showdown between the 16-year long Karolyi government and the rising Nationalists under the leadership of Bethlen, Gombos and Horthy. The Nationalists clamor for a final break-away from Austria, while Passivists wish to see the continued loose partership with Hungary. Karolyi's succesful negotiation at the previous Ausgleich and eocnomic recovery from the war made him popular in the 20s, but during the 30s his influence and support has dwindled, coming to a head in 1932 with Bethlen being elected prime minister, elected against in 1934, the coming 1936 election will prove to be the final decision between the two sides, as the upcoming Ausgleich approaches.

The Nationalists won't be Fascists or Socialists, just conservative, pro-Hungarian independence / self-reliance (including militarily), and resistance against the Romanian socialism nextdoor. These policies will have more popularity, so the player can decide between the less popular but safer proposal of sticking with Karolyi, or choose a more radical path under Bethlen and Gombos, with a more militaristic, authortarian state asserting its independence, emerging as the most powerful state from the Austrian Federation, even more than Austria.
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Many thanks - sounds good (although will mean the Ausgleich events will have to be made even more complex!). I'm guessing that the nationalists will not want a total seperation with Austria, just ending the puppet status, while keeping Otto as the rightful Apostolic King of Hungary. And they're probably going to be likely to embark on an even more extensive programme of Magyarization and centralisation of the rightful Hungarian lands, so this is likely to lead to some conflict with Croatia and possibly Galicia and Bosnia as well....
 
Berlichingen said:
Could you try your hand at a Hungarian background Hiddeman? :D

Here are some pics you could use:
http://www.axishistory.com/fileadmin/user_upload/a/award-hu-mariatheresa.jpg

http://www.axishistory.com/fileadmin/user_upload/a/award-hu-heroes.jpg

http://www.axishistory.com/fileadmin/user_upload/a/award-hu-stephen.jpg

http://www.axishistory.com/fileadmin/user_upload/h/hu-cavalry.jpg

http://www.axishistory.com/fileadmin/user_upload/h/hu-bf109-3.jpg

http://www.mangore.com/hungarian_flag.jpg

http://www.cmi-gold-silver.com/images/coins/hungarian2.jpg

:cool:
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And don't forget:

The Holy Crown of Hungary: http://budapest.usembassy.gov/uploads/images/hCCmrC1RYgcY8avA7zSmLw/holy_crown.jpg

And something from the Hungarian section of S.K.u.K.H. Otto I's baby pictures:
http://www.twschwarzer.de/kronung.jpg
http://www.twschwarzer.de/otto1.jpg
http://www.twschwarzer.de/hung.jpg
 
thanks T-Hiddemen!
they are fantastic

I guess I should have made the requests in the other thread though (sorry for hijacking your thread Sarmatia1871 :eek:o )

Ayeshteni
 
Many thanks for the descriptions - also don't forgot to include Sicilian Party Chairman Antonio Gramsci's doctrine of socialist 'Egemonia' in international relations!
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Not sure a detailed description of socialist 'Egemonia' would be appropriate for a country description and a brief mention of it is hard to do without having to explain it. Still, I'll alter the description to include Antonio himself and see how it looks then.


Re: Canadian Intervention - it's probably best if Canada just gets the option to occupy certain territories and send extensive supplies and volunteers to its backed faction in America, rather than directly intervene in the Civil War at the start. This is because if Canada is involved in a war with the CSA and annexes it (or occupies provinces when a non-ally annexes it), then it could lead to very weird post-war border changes - eg. see the results of direct foreign intervention against the Soviets in 'All the Russias'!
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Yeah, province control was a big reason why I hesitated too. I'll try and do a few events for Canadian involvement then.
 
regarding flanders and wallonien (were these the states which make up pre war belgium?

With the post of Belgian(sp???) guy i think there would be some fun things to do. With Germany possibly breaking apart, why don't you make germany release them because they have other troubles to deal with, and they will make war over the piece of land they got? When one side finally gained the upperhand, then they both would re-unite and create a Belgium.
Just a thought, however i do not believe that belgian soldiers would fight against their own. However, with extremist leaders, maybe they would have too. Yeah why not don't you make an event in which the people of Belgium refuse to fight against themselves? Just a thought for more trouble in europe :D
 
Many thanks - sounds good (although will mean the Ausgleich events will have to be made even more complex!). I'm guessing that the nationalists will not want a total seperation with Austria, just ending the puppet status, while keeping Otto as the rightful Apostolic King of Hungary. And they're probably going to be likely to embark on an even more extensive programme of Magyarization and centralisation of the rightful Hungarian lands, so this is likely to lead to some conflict with Croatia and possibly Galicia and Bosnia as well....
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No, the nationalists want total seperation, a movement that began in the 1830s, remember Hungary declared itself independent several times in the closing month of WWI, the war, even if won would still expose the cracks in the Empire, and the Ausgleich would be a temporary compromise, Hungary content with more or less autonomy. The Nationalists however finally want to see the emergence of a fully independent Hungarian state, Karolyi and the passivists wish to keep the status quo, instead of a direct cutting of ties with Austria.

This will lead to the collaspe of the A-H, as it should, I find it impossible to believe Austria would stay together this long. The game should have the very real option that it fall apart, with Austria either accepting it or attempting to force them through military, with possible German aide, that could spark a greater European War.

If Austria collaspes altogether, we could have Poland and Serbia begin to grow more nationalist, perhaps through plebiscites, Poles split off to Poland, Serbs and Slavs split off to Serbia and Czech nationalists sieze power in a reactionary government.

This will make the Balkans incredibly explosive and exciting and be an easy and realistic way for Europe to begin to descend into chaos again.
 
Berlichingen said:
No, the nationalists want total seperation, a movement that began in the 1830s, remember Hungary declared itself independent several times in the closing month of WWI, the war, even if won would still expose the cracks in the Empire, and the Ausgleich would be a temporary compromise, Hungary content with more or less autonomy. The Nationalists however finally want to see the emergence of a fully independent Hungarian state, Karolyi and the passivists wish to keep the status quo, instead of a direct cutting of ties with Austria.

This will lead to the collaspe of the A-H, as it should, I find it impossible to believe Austria would stay together this long. The game should have the very real option that it fall apart, with Austria either accepting it or attempting to force them through military, with possible German aide, that could spark a greater European War.

If Austria collaspes altogether, we could have Poland and Serbia begin to grow more nationalist, perhaps through plebiscites, Poles split off to Poland, Serbs and Slavs split off to Serbia and Czech nationalists sieze power in a reactionary government.

This will make the Balkans incredibly explosive and exciting and be an easy and realistic way for Europe to begin to descend into chaos again.
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A lot of this is already modelled in the ausgleich events: There's a huge risk something will go "Kaboom!" in the Balkans.

That said, there should probably be an option for Hungary going it's own way but with a Habsburg king...
 
after playing the alpha for a while, i noticed a few things.

-Ausgleich needs some sort of peace treaty, espec. if germany intervenes. In a recent game, germany ended up annexing all of Hungary. Maybe if Austria goes to war with hungery, they should gain cores on the territory, so they recieve it. Then after the war, it can all be sorted out.

-This is more a balance problem, i find that the USA always wins the civil war because the CSA dows TEX, and TEX dows USA. Maybe the event causing the CSA dow should change, or maybe TEX should be programmed not to dow the U.S if its in a war with CSA.

-Spice up california a little, giving them more than 1 minister for most posts, and some events for choosing leadership. Maybe add some IC, because as it stands, Cal is only important because it prevents the USA from attacking other revolters from the west.

-Tinker with the requirements for releasing some nations. For example, as France i was unable to release Italian Fed, even though i had all of its territory from before the war.

Other than these stupid concerns, its a blast. Great job, and i can't wait to see what you do.
 
Why would Hungary have a Habsburg king, do any of you understand how much hungarians were sick and tired of Austrian rule and by the 1930s would defiantely be wanting to throw off the remains of the corrupt Habsburg rule.
 
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