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i think we should open up a few countrys a little more to the south like milan/bohemia/something in bordeaux region perhaps/poland ect

incase somebody wan'ts to move or join

milan played is probaly able to rival me btw
 
I agree, and I would think that Apulia, too, would be good for a human player now considering how it has done so well in the Baltic region.

There was a discussion during last session on whether we should be allowed or not to grab kingdom titles. I am good with whatever rule makes for an enjoyable game for the rest of you, but I think this matter should be settled before next session.

To a large extent I agree with Cheech that it would screw up the game if the focus of it becomes to collect as many kingdom titles as possible. (At least that was how I understood your position, Cheech, please clarify if I am wrong.) We will end up with all of Europe split between us and have the AI as vassals, and a map that doesn't look plausible at all.

Personally I find a lot of enjoyment in the way the game mechanics direct me in where I should go and which titles I should pursue. I'd rather not grab title claims at all, but recieve them the proper way through crusading, events and inheritance. There are plenty of ways to get loads of claims, admittedly not always the claims you would appreciate the most from the perspective of a powergamer, but I like to think that if I for some reason get a claim on a godforsaken place far away, well, that is one title i am going to fight for - maybe not right away, but in due time. To outright grab a title because it is strategically convenient, however, is like dowing without CB. It should be more expensive than it is, not only for kingdom titles, but for counties and duchies as well. Ideally, I would like to see title grabbing banned, with an exception for crazed rulers. They are, after all, not regulated by the rules of society, and free to make up their own claims as they please.

That is not to say that I have not grabbed any claims myself in this game, I grabbed some in Sweden in order to keep up with Denmark, but no Kingdom titles.

There are talks about adding multiple kingdom breakup events in the next patch, and I have previously argued that there should be a limit on how many Kingdom titles a player may hold (as opposed to grab) and still believe that this is the way to go to avoid a game end with a very limited amount of human controlled multiple kingdom behemoth realms. I mean its not the end of the world if you have to give a Kingdom away, you can keep it within the family if you like, so long as I get some colour variation on the screen.
 
i agree on not alowing king titles xept for 1part , i think dukes should be alowed to claim 1title since half are kingdoms other half dukes i don't see the problem if where alowed to claim 1kingtitle if you don't have 1already
 
You make it sound like being a duke is some big disadvantage drake :) Its easier being duke of the rich lowlands than king of the sheep i can asure you.

We will vote on it. I vote no. That being you can claim main titles from AI, just not king ones.
 
Well I'd have to vote "no" as well.

But if one gets the title randomly or by event/inheritence I wouldn't be against a player pressing that claim against a AI.
 
can i usurp it atleast if i get enough provs ? then force it off the ai that way ?
 
I wouldn't have a problem with that.
 
only grab king will be forbiden. Upsurbing king titles and grabiting count and duke titles is fine unless it is a players main title.
 
can i play with you again?
but saxony is probably dead :/
 
well crap...... :mad: :mad: :mad:




my papa just called and needs me to take the cat to his house. its leg is hurt and has been limping around, and since it used to be my grandmothers cat they do all kinds of stuff for it, so they are taking it to the vet. i will try to take it there now and get back as soon as possible. i MIGHT be back before start and i might not. dont wait on me. i should be back shortly after game start though and once you rehost, someone please check to see if im online and tell me please. the s/n is the same as the member name.



sorry about this guys, ill hurry back...
 
EarendilHE said:
can i play with you again?
but saxony is probably dead :/

hosting in vnet
 
DPM128 said:
well crap...... :mad: :mad: :mad:




my papa just called and needs me to take the cat to his house. its leg is hurt and has been limping around, and since it used to be my grandmothers cat they do all kinds of stuff for it, so they are taking it to the vet. i will try to take it there now and get back as soon as possible. i MIGHT be back before start and i might not. dont wait on me. i should be back shortly after game start though and once you rehost, someone please check to see if im online and tell me please. the s/n is the same as the member name.



sorry about this guys, ill hurry back...


i will watch the forum occasionally when youre rdy to oin just icq me on 280012044 or post a message here
 
well, papa made me go with him to the vet, so i just got home. ill check vnet sporadically and see if you guys are rehosting. the cat is ok by the way. its just been in a fight. no broken foot. just gave the cat some shots and antibiotics....
 
Son of a bitch. I thought today was wednesday! :rofl:
 
Strange things happened in central Europe today, an Italian bishop ran off with the Germany title, while the von Frankens still hold on to the kingdoms of Italy and Burgundy.

King Drogo secured his position in Iberia with the titles of Castilla and Valencia added. Meanwhile, now in his sixties, he had to produce yet another heir, having outlived all his previos sons. Young Rainulf will probably be the next King of Norway, and is already recieving valuable court education in his Mazovian court.

Personally I will be away on vacation for the coming 2 sessions, so it will be exiting to see what has become of Norway when I get back - If someone wants to sub it that would be okay but I am fine with AI control as well:)
 
LordLeto said:
Son of a bitch. I thought today was wednesday! :rofl:


lol