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I have heard that the T.O. was formed by the knights. But i am not sure if it is fact or specutalitions
 
Originally posted by Norgesvenn
Rumours had it that the Templars knew some sort of great secret...
We can only speculate whether this was just a rumour from Phillipe Le Belle, or that they actually knew something that was not common knowledge. By 1492, Columbus had the Templar cross on his sails. More room for speculation here, innit? *fits of laughter*

Those ships were of the Queen Isabel &the Pinzón Brothers, they wern't Colombus'
 
A reading suggestion.... interesting though perhaps not exactly correct... hehehe :)

A) The Great Siege - 1565 by Ernle Bradford ISBN 0-14-002106-x

B) The Monks of War - The Military Religious Orders by Desmond Seward ISBN 0-14-019501-7

/Greven
 
The templar lend a lot of money to the king of France and he did not whant to repay them. The templar where destroyed because they became banker. The knight of St john wher still fighter for the holy faith, that's what save them. The 3 orders where created during the 1st crusade. The templar where fighter and the "hospitalier" as they where named where there to be healer. They where both on the holy land. The TO was supposed to fight the heretics in the eastern europ.
All three had lots of land in europ. The templar mostly in France, the knght of st John in spain and italy (if i remember well) and the TO in the HRE.
After the eradication of the templar the knight get by the pope all of what posseded the templar. By this they became mostly French by there origin. From 1492 to the invasion of Napoleon 95% (if not 100% but i'm not sure) of the grand master of the order where French as 75% of the order itself.