Latin Empire bugs

[Greatludde12]

There are a couple things about the latin empire that seems odd, like you can't form the roman empire and if you make a hybrid culture with the greeks you get the decision to restore the byzantine empire while being the latin emperor in constantinople. Is this intentional?
-Thanks in advance, Harald.

 

[moon_and_stars]

I think latin empire part is unfinished at all.
you can create latin empire through crusade event, and seize territory from byzantine empire. there are several events to portray the divergence between frankishes and greeks. but no more any otherthings
Even if you seize all the territories and replace the entire Byzantine Empire with the Latin Empire, nothing will happen. The empire becomes an awkward foreign object in the game, detached from Byzantine related content (well, just like true them in history).
What you can do is just hybriding greek and 'restore the byzantine', then get a event "frankish empire crashed". that's quite strange.

I agree with that the latin empire need more extended contents. at least players should receive some feedback on their success along the hypothetical path, rather than making it feel like something destined to be born with only a failed ending.

 

[Pups' Socks]

I think latin empire part is unfinished at all.
you can create latin empire through crusade event, and seize territory from byzantine empire. there are several events to portray the divergence between frankishes and greeks. but no more any otherthings
Even if you seize all the territories and replace the entire Byzantine Empire with the Latin Empire, nothing will happen. The empire becomes an awkward foreign object in the game, detached from Byzantine related content (well, just like true them in history).
What you can do is just hybriding greek and 'restore the byzantine', then get a event "frankish empire crashed". that's quite strange.

I agree with that the latin empire need more extended contents. at least players should receive some feedback on their success along the hypothetical path, rather than making it feel like something destined to be born with only a failed ending.

They should perhaps have born in the pueple, Baldwin II is called Porphyrogenitos in some places like Britannica but whether if he was actually called as such in real life, or Britannica calls him as such because he was born in Constantinople, I don’t know. Obviously it shouldn’t be if he wasn’t in real history, but it could still be a fun little mechanic to implement just like you can decide to go Administrative upon winning the 4th crusade.

 

[moon_and_stars]

They should perhaps have born in the pueple, Baldwin II is called Porphyrogenitos in some places like Britannica but whether if he was actually called as such in real life, or Britannica calls him as such because he was born in Constantinople, I don’t know. Obviously it shouldn’t be if he wasn’t in real history, but it could still be a fun little mechanic to implement just like you can decide to go Administrative upon winning the 4th crusade.

Yes, It’d be better to show the Frankishes of the Latin Empire gradually adopting greek traditions through decisions or event options to unlock related content (right now they only have one event deciding whether to adopt the government).
In a game where the Holy Roman Empire can restore the Roman Empire and overwrite its title history, and where the outremer empire decision already exists in the base game, the Latin Empire’s situation feels kinda awkward.

At the very least, It should get a special event—like Byzantine’s frontier-recovery events—when the Latin Empire fully takes over all Byzantine territories and authority. This event could let It choose whether to declare themselves the Roman successor (to unlock some Roman relative contents) and maybe even rename themselves to something like ‘Romania’. The title ‘Latin Empire’ sounds as unofficial as ‘Byzantine Empire’ (for romani, which they’ve already provide options to change anyway)."

 

[Pups' Socks]

Yes, It’d be better to show the Frankishes of the Latin Empire gradually adopting greek traditions through decisions or event options to unlock related content (right now they only have one event deciding whether to adopt the government).
In a game where the Holy Roman Empire can restore the Roman Empire and overwrite its title history, and where the outremer empire decision already exists in the base game, the Latin Empire’s situation feels kinda awkward.

At the very least, It should get a special event—like Byzantine’s frontier-recovery events—when the Latin Empire fully takes over all Byzantine territories and authority. This event could let It choose whether to declare themselves the Roman successor (to unlock some Roman relative contents) and maybe even rename themselves to something like ‘Romania’. The title ‘Latin Empire’ sounds as unofficial as ‘Byzantine Empire’ (for romani, which they’ve already provide options to change anyway)."

Oh there should definitely be some decisions and events upon full recovery, but some stuff like Born in the Purple or perhaps forming something akin to the varangian guard (or even keeping it in place) etc should be allowed from the start just like the administrative or at least be tied behind decisions that do not have hard to fulfill requirements.