Hi gentlemen,
I uploaded the edited save I mentionned last Friday.
Changes from Grashopa's saves :
- William de Normandie (son of the late Robert Curthose) is duke of Deheubart and count of his father's english possessions (4 counties)
- He is a vassal of the king of England
- That's all.
If you agree I will go on with him, if you don't we will go from Grashopa's save and I will pick the Dukes of March.
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Now since I only tangentially mentionned it in this week's AAR and nobody seem to want to do another one, here is the brakdown of last week's occidental crisis as I remember it :
- Northampton (Kuipy), vassal of the Duke of Oxford, who is a vassal of the Duke of England (and has -1800 prestige), notices that ZOMG there are muslims in Wales free claims ! and attacks.
- Wales is overrun but the muslims won't peace, so he goes crusading, dangerously draining his forces while the King of England regularly white-peaces the heathens
- Meanwhile the kingdom of Venice attacks the muslims as Wales in Wales and get white-peaced but obtains claims in the bargain.
- The duke of Oxford (one province) decides it is a good moment to attack England, so Northampton finds itself without uber-liege and depleted of manpower yet. :rofl:
- The duke of Britanny attacks Northampton
- Northampton finally peaces the muslims for its welsh provinces, accepting to become their vassal in the hope of breaking away soon.
- France attacks Northampton, bringing along its ally Sicily (Brian)
- At some point Bretagne attacks France, or the inverse.
- Kuipy accepts to be vassalized by France, but is still at war with Sicily
- France attacks England, Kuipy tags along. At that point the situation becomes completely

between England, Northampton, France, Britanny and Sicily.
- Northampton eventually gets vassalized with Sicily.

, the other players progressive white-peace one another
- Just as things started to border on sanity again, Venice remembers its welsh claims and attacks Northampton, Sicily retaliates.
- In amoment of egarement Kuipy forgets the rule about remaining Sicily's vassal

o and lets himself be vassalized by Venice.
- Brian is (rightly so

o

o ) furious but here seem to be no in-game solution.
- A couple monts later Venice dies and... Northampton inherits it along with the war against Sicily :wacko: elective law FTW
- A new couple of months later Curthose dies and it's game over for Kuipy as some Germans inherit :rofl: elective law FTL
- That's about it.

:wacko:
A few details are probably wrong, feel free to correct them...