Lock ups...

[unmerged(41631)]

OK, I'm desperate now.

First evening I played HOI2 - No problem.

Played the Ardennes Offensive all the way through before trying the grand campaign as Poland - Fine.

Next time I play it locks up (screen freezes, music stops) after about 5 to 10 minutes and has every time since.

Oddly enough I tried the Ardennes Offensive again and it was fine...

I have the latest patch and I have now installed the latest graphic and sound drivers.

I've even scanned for and removed any spyware.

I've tried changing the avi folder to avi_back (now changed back) and tried 16 bit colour depth (if I understood what that is correctly).

Still locks up.

Game looks great and I am desperate to get stuck in.

Any help greatly appreciated.

(Incidentally, Victoria used to do this as well but only after about an hour's play. I've tried that since the drivers were updated and the spyware removed and that now Victoria seems fine...)

Raedeon graphic card, nvidia sound card, athlon processor, Windows XP.

 

[Castellon]

You have obviuosly seen my standard advice and tried some of it.
Do keep the AVI folder renamed, the worst that that will do is skip the intro videos for you and get you in the game sooner.

Have you turned off all your virus protection and all the other programs running in the background?

 

[jpd]

Sounds an awful lot like the infamous infinite loop problem. Do you have a VIA chipset, by any chance?

Anyway, look here for some pointers to tweak your system:

http://www.europa-universalis.com/forum/showthread.php?t=147489

A last thought. Since you can run a small battle scenario but not a big GC, you should consider testing your memory modules. It may be that one of them isn't 100% reliable, and since a large GC uses a lot more memory than a small battle scenario, it's possible that it tripps over a faulty memory location.

Jan Peter

 

[ottomaton]

Sounds an awful lot like the infamous infinite loop problem. Do you have a VIA chipset, by any chance?

Anyway, look here for some pointers to tweak your system:

http://www.europa-universalis.com/forum/showthread.php?t=147489

A last thought. Since you can run a small battle scenario but not a big GC, you should consider testing your memory modules. It may be that one of them isn't 100% reliable, and since a large GC uses a lot more memory than a small battle scenario, it's possible that it tripps over a faulty memory location.

Jan Peter

I had a similar problem with CK, EUII, amd HOI II. THe problem was more or less fixed my updgrading the "setpoint drivers" to the newest version from Logitech". While I still have problems, they are recoverable.

I recieve a "C++ page overflolw message, restart the setupoint drivers, and contiunue the minimized, but still running game." Not perfect, but works. Of course, your problem may be different in subtle ways that render my advice useless.

 

[unmerged(41631)]

Thanks...

A lot of stuff to try and I'm a bit out of my depth.

I'm also on full-time childcare duties until next week so it may be a bit before I can give this my full attention.

If I can just ask one particularly dumb question for the moment:

When you say the folder should be AVI_back, do you mean "avi_back" or "AVI_back" or doesn't it matter? I've no idea whether these things are case sensitive and I notice you say "AVI_back" when the folder is currently called "avi".

Apologies if I'm being stupid...

My PC's by Evesham and they have a very good local rate helpline (so far) so I think I'll ask them about testing memory nodes and setpoint thingies.

Oh and the infinie loop stuff...

I have tried with the anti-vitus off but I don't think I've tried with it off and the folder name and colour depth changed at the same time.

I'll try that next...

 

[unmerged(41631)]

I have tried with the anti-vitus off but I don't think I've tried with it off and the folder name and colour depth changed at the same time.

I'll try that next...

Just tried it and this time it wouldn't even load the "autosave"!!!

Castellon, what do you recomend as my next move?

 

[Castellon]

The "AVI folder thing" the name does not matter as long as it is changed.

Okay, so by what you are saying about the saves, it is just this one game that has become corrupt.

Now that you have changed all this stuff, like the virus protection off, the AVI folder renamed, the color depth, the updated drivers ...

Start a new game and see if the problem reappears.

 

[unmerged(41631)]

Tried new game.

Locked up within 5 minutes...

 

[Castellon]

Okay lets find out what we are dealing with here.

Please run a DirectX Diagnostic:
Start menu –Run - then type Dxdiag, then select each tab across the top of the window, and run the tests on each tab. Then select “Save All Information” button in the lower right of the window. This will bring up a dialog box to allow you to select a name for the file where the information will be saved. You can save it right on the desktop as this will make it easy to find. Then copy the contents of that file from the start to the heading that says “DirectX components” then paste what you have copied into a post in this thread.

 

[unmerged(41631)]

Well since the last post I have actually gone as far as to reinstall windows!!!

Thats dedication...

Played for a good half hour before lock up.

So:

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System Information
------------------
Time of this report: 5/28/2005, 23:57:30
Machine name: JOHN-C4OVCE3Y1Q
Operating System: Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 1 (2600.xpsp2.050301-1526)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: eveshamvale
System Model: AWRDACPI
BIOS: Nvidia - 42302e31
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2600+, MMX, 3DNow, ~2088MHz
Memory: 512MB RAM
Page File: 211MB used, 1038MB available
Primary File System: n/a
DirectX Version: DirectX 8.1 (4.08.01.0810)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.01.2600.1106 32bit Unicode

------------
DxDiag Notes
------------
DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
Display Tab 1: No problems found.
DirectDraw test results: All tests were successful.
Direct3D test results: All tests were successful.
Sound Tab 1: DirectSound test results: All tests were successful.
Music Tab: DirectMusic test results: All tests were successful.
Input Tab: No input devices detected.
No problems found.
Network Tab: No problems found.
DirectPlay test results: All tests were successful.

------------------
DirectX Components
------------------
ddraw.dll: 5.01.2600.1106 English Final Retail 8/29/2002 03:40:50 253440 bytes
ddrawex.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/18/2001 13:00:00 24064 bytes
dxapi.sys: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/18/2001 13:00:00 10496 bytes
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d3drm.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/18/2001 13:00:00 350208 bytes
d3dxof.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/18/2001 13:00:00 47616 bytes
d3dpmesh.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/18/2001 13:00:00 34816 bytes
dplayx.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/18/2001 13:00:00 212992 bytes
dpmodemx.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/18/2001 13:00:00 20992 bytes
dpwsockx.dll: 5.01.2600.1106 English Final Retail 8/29/2002 03:40:50 49664 bytes
dplaysvr.exe: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/18/2001 13:00:00 26112 bytes
dpnsvr.exe: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/18/2001 13:00:00 18944 bytes
dpnet.dll: 5.01.2600.1106 English Final Retail 8/29/2002 03:40:50 156672 bytes
dpnlobby.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/18/2001 13:00:00 38400 bytes
dpnwsock.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/18/2001 13:00:00 61952 bytes
dpnaddr.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/18/2001 13:00:00 26112 bytes
dpnmodem.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/18/2001 13:00:00 62464 bytes
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dpvsetup.exe: 5.01.2600.1106 English Final Retail 8/29/2002 03:41:22 58368 bytes
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dpvacm.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/18/2001 13:00:00 24064 bytes
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dpnhupnp.dll: 5.01.2600.1106 English Final Retail 8/29/2002 03:40:50 56320 bytes
dinput.dll: 5.01.2600.1106 English Final Retail 8/29/2002 03:40:50 151552 bytes
dinput8.dll: 5.01.2600.1106 English Final Retail 8/29/2002 03:40:50 168960 bytes
dimap.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/18/2001 13:00:00 44032 bytes
diactfrm.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/18/2001 13:00:00 394240 bytes
joy.cpl: 5.01.2600.1106 English Final Retail 8/29/2002 03:41:28 65536 bytes
gcdef.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/18/2001 13:00:00 76800 bytes
pid.dll: 5.01.2600.1106 English Final Retail 8/29/2002 03:41:10 31744 bytes
dsound.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/18/2001 13:00:00 338944 bytes
dsound3d.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/18/2001 13:00:00 1293824 bytes
dswave.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/18/2001 13:00:00 16896 bytes
dsdmo.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/18/2001 13:00:00 165888 bytes
dsdmoprp.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/18/2001 13:00:00 66560 bytes
dmusic.dll: 5.01.2600.1106 English Final Retail 8/29/2002 03:40:50 94720 bytes
dmband.dll: 5.01.2600.1106 English Final Retail 8/29/2002 03:40:50 26112 bytes
dmcompos.dll: 5.01.2600.1106 English Final Retail 8/29/2002 03:40:50 57344 bytes
dmime.dll: 5.01.2600.1106 English Final Retail 8/29/2002 03:40:50 172544 bytes
dmloader.dll: 5.01.2600.1106 English Final Retail 8/29/2002 03:40:50 31744 bytes
dmstyle.dll: 5.01.2600.1106 English Final Retail 8/29/2002 03:40:50 110080 bytes
dmsynth.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/18/2001 13:00:00 99840 bytes
dmscript.dll: 5.01.2600.1106 English Final Retail 8/29/2002 03:40:50 77312 bytes
dx7vb.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/18/2001 13:00:00 595456 bytes
dx8vb.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/18/2001 13:00:00 1185792 bytes
mfc40.dll: 4.01.00.6140 English Final Retail 8/18/2001 13:00:00 924432 bytes
mfc42.dll: 6.00.8665.0000 English Beta Retail 8/18/2001 13:00:00 995383 bytes
wsock32.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/18/2001 13:00:00 21504 bytes
amstream.dll: 6.04.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/18/2001 13:00:00 63488 bytes
devenum.dll: 6.04.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/18/2001 13:00:00 51712 bytes
dxmasf.dll: 6.04.09.1125 English Final Retail 8/29/2002 03:40:52 498205 bytes
mciqtz32.dll: 6.04.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/18/2001 13:00:00 33280 bytes
mpg2splt.ax: 6.04.2600.1106 English Final Retail 8/29/2002 03:41:28 135168 bytes
msdmo.dll: 6.04.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/18/2001 13:00:00 11264 bytes
qasf.dll: 6.04.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/18/2001 13:00:00 152576 bytes
qcap.dll: 6.04.2600.1106 English Final Retail 8/29/2002 03:41:10 184832 bytes
qdv.dll: 6.04.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/18/2001 13:00:00 266752 bytes
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qedwipes.dll: 6.04.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/18/2001 13:00:00 734208 bytes
quartz.dll: 6.04.2600.1106 English Final Retail 8/29/2002 03:41:10 1142784 bytes
strmdll.dll: 4.01.00.3928 English Final Retail 8/29/2002 03:41:18 251904 bytes
iac25_32.ax: 2.00.05.0053 English Final Retail 8/18/2001 13:00:00 199680 bytes
ir41_32.ax: 4.51.16.0003 English Final Retail 8/18/2001 13:00:00 848384 bytes
ir41_qc.dll: 4.30.62.0002 English Final Retail 8/18/2001 13:00:00 120320 bytes
ir41_qcx.dll: 4.30.64.0001 English Final Retail 8/18/2001 13:00:00 338432 bytes
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ir50_qc.dll: 5.00.63.0048 English Final Retail 8/18/2001 13:00:00 200192 bytes
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ks.sys: 5.01.2600.1106 English Final Retail 8/29/2002 02:13:42 131712 bytes
ksproxy.ax: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/17/2001 22:37:04 117248 bytes
ksuser.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/17/2001 22:36:18 4096 bytes
stream.sys: 5.01.2600.1106 English Final Retail 8/29/2002 01:32:34 44416 bytes
mspclock.sys: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/17/2001 13:48:42 5120 bytes
mspqm.sys: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/17/2001 13:48:46 4608 bytes
mskssrv.sys: 5.01.2600.1106 English Final Retail 8/29/2002 01:27:12 7040 bytes
swenum.sys: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/18/2001 13:00:00 3840 bytes
msvidctl.dll: 6.04.2600.1106 English Final Retail 8/29/2002 03:41:08 1220608 bytes
vbisurf.ax: 5.01.2600.1106 English Final Retail 8/29/2002 03:41:28 27136 bytes
msyuv.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/18/2001 13:00:00 16384 bytes
wstdecod.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/18/2001 13:00:00 46080 bytes

---------------
Display Devices
---------------
Card name: RADEON 9800
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
Chip type: RADEON 9800 AGP (0x4E49)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Device ID: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4E49&SUBSYS_00021002&REV_00
Display Memory: 256.0 MB
Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
Driver Name: ati2dvag.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.10.6546 (English)
DDI Version: 8 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 5/4/2005 03:28:54, 226816 bytes
Driver Signed: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
VDD:
Mini VDD: ati2mtag.sys
Mini VDD Date: 5/4/2005 03:28:34, 1133056 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-0D09-11CF-206A-0820A1C2CB35}
Vendor ID: 0x1002
Device ID: 0x4E49
SubSys ID: 0x00021002
Revision ID: 0x0000
Registry: OK
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: All tests were successful.
D3D7 Test Result: All tests were successful.
D3D8 Test Result: All tests were successful.

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Sound Devices
-------------
Description: NVIDIA(R) nForce(TM) Audio
Device ID: NFORCE_VAD
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: WDM
Driver Name: nvapu.sys
Driver Version: 5.10.2934.0000 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Signed: Yes
Date and Size: 3/19/2003 08:51:00, 280704 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: NVIDIA Corporation
HW Accel Level: Full
Registry: OK
Sound Test Result: All tests were successful.

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DirectMusic
-----------
DLS Path: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\drivers\GM.DLS
Version: 1.00.16.0002
Ports:
NVIDIA(R) Kernel Synthesizer, Hardware (Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal, Default Port
NVIDIA(R) nForce(TM) Audio, Software (Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal
Microsoft MIDI Mapper [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
NVIDIA(R) DLS Synthesizer [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
Microsoft GS Wavetable SW Synth [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
Microsoft Synthesizer, Software (Not Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal
Registry: OK
Music Test Result: All tests were successful.

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DirectShow Filters
------------------

DirectShow Filters:
WMAudio Decoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
WMVideo 8 Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
WMVideo 9 Decoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
MSScreen decoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
WMVideo Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
Mpeg4 Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
Full Screen Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.1106
DV Muxer,0x00400000,0,0,qdv.dll,6.04.2600.0000
Color Space Converter,0x00400001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.1106
WM ASF Reader,0x00400000,0,0,qasf.dll,6.04.2600.0000
AVI Splitter,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.1106
VGA 16 Color Ditherer,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.1106
Indeo® video 5.10 Compression Filter,0x00200000,1,1,ir50_32.dll,5.2562.15.0055
Windows Media Audio Decoder,0x00800001,1,1,msadds32.ax,8.00.00.4487
AC3 Parser Filter,0x00600000,1,1,mpg2splt.ax,6.04.2600.1106
StreamBufferSink,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,
MJPEG Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.1106
Indeo® video 5.10 Decompression Filter,0x00640000,1,1,ir50_32.dll,5.2562.15.0055
Microsoft Screen Video Decompressor,0x00800000,1,1,msscds32.ax,8.00.00.4487
MPEG-I Stream Splitter,0x00600000,1,2,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.1106
SAMI (CC) Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.1106
MPEG Layer-3 Decoder,0x00810000,1,1,l3codecx.ax,1.05.00.0050
MPEG-2 Splitter,0x005fffff,1,0,mpg2splt.ax,6.04.2600.1106
ACELP.net Sipro Lab Audio Decoder,0x00800001,1,1,acelpdec.ax,1.04.00.0000
Internal Script Command Renderer,0x00800001,1,0,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.1106
MPEG Audio Decoder,0x03680001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.1106
File Source (Netshow URL),0x00400000,0,1,dxmasf.dll,6.04.09.1125
DV Splitter,0x00600000,1,2,qdv.dll,6.04.2600.0000
Windows Media Video Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,wmvds32.ax,8.00.00.4487
Windows Media Video Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,wmv8ds32.ax,8.00.00.4000
Windows Media Multiplexer,0x00600000,1,1,dxmasf.dll,6.04.09.1125
ASX file Parser,0x00600000,1,1,dxmasf.dll,6.04.09.1125
ASX v.2 file Parser,0x00600000,1,0,dxmasf.dll,6.04.09.1125
NSC file Parser,0x00600000,1,1,dxmasf.dll,6.04.09.1125
ACM Wrapper,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.1106
Windows Media source filter,0x00600000,0,2,dxmasf.dll,6.04.09.1125
Video Renderer,0x00800001,1,0,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.1106
MPEG-2 Video Stream Analyzer,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,
Line 21 Decoder,0x00600000,1,1,qdvd.dll,6.04.2600.1106
Video Port Manager,0x00600000,2,1,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.1106
WST Decoder,0x00600000,1,1,wstdecod.dll,5.01.2600.0000
Video Renderer,0x00400000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.1106
WM ASF Writer,0x00400000,0,0,qasf.dll,6.04.2600.0000
VBI Surface Allocator,0x00600000,1,1,vbisurf.ax,5.01.2600.1106
Microsoft MPEG-4 Video Decompressor,0x00800000,1,1,mpg4ds32.ax,8.00.00.4487
File writer,0x00200000,1,0,qcap.dll,6.04.2600.1106
DVD Navigator,0x00200000,0,2,qdvd.dll,6.04.2600.1106
Overlay Mixer2,0x00400000,1,1,qdvd.dll,6.04.2600.1106
AVI Draw,0x00600064,9,1,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.1106
.RAM file Parser,0x00600000,1,0,dxmasf.dll,6.04.09.1125
G.711 Codec,0x00200000,1,1,g711codc.ax,5.01.2600.0000
MPEG-2 Demultiplexer,0x00600000,1,1,mpg2splt.ax,6.04.2600.1106
DV Video Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,qdv.dll,6.04.2600.0000
Indeo® audio software,0x00500000,1,1,iac25_32.ax,2.00.05.0053
Windows Media Update Filter,0x00400000,1,0,dxmasf.dll,6.04.09.1125
ASF DIB Handler,0x00600000,1,1,dxmasf.dll,6.04.09.1125
ASF ACM Handler,0x00600000,1,1,dxmasf.dll,6.04.09.1125
ASF ICM Handler,0x00600000,1,1,dxmasf.dll,6.04.09.1125
ASF URL Handler,0x00600000,1,1,dxmasf.dll,6.04.09.1125
ASF JPEG Handler,0x00600000,1,1,dxmasf.dll,6.04.09.1125
ASF DJPEG Handler,0x00600000,1,1,dxmasf.dll,6.04.09.1125
ASF embedded stuff Handler,0x00600000,1,1,dxmasf.dll,6.04.09.1125
WIA Stream Snapshot Filter,0x00200000,1,1,wiasf.ax,1.00.00.0000
SampleGrabber,0x00200000,1,1,qedit.dll,6.04.2600.1106
Null Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,qedit.dll,6.04.2600.1106
IVF source filter,0x00600000,0,1,ivfsrc.ax,5.10.02.0051
StreamBufferSource,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,
WMP CD Filter,0x00600000,0,1,wmpcd.dll,8.00.00.4487
Smart Tee,0x00200000,1,2,qcap.dll,6.04.2600.1106
Overlay Mixer,0x00200000,0,0,qdvd.dll,6.04.2600.1106
AVI Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.1106
AVI/WAV File Source,0x00400000,0,2,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.1106
QuickTime Movie Parser,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.1106
Wave Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.1106
MIDI Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.1106
Multi-file Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.1106
Lyric Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.1106
File stream renderer,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.1106
XML Playlist,0x00400000,1,0,dxmasf.dll,6.04.09.1125
AVI Mux,0x00200000,1,0,qcap.dll,6.04.2600.1106
Line 21 Decoder 2,0x00600002,1,1,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.1106
File Source (Async.),0x00400000,0,1,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.1106
File Source (URL),0x00400000,0,1,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.1106
Windows Media Pad VU Data Grabber,0x00600000,1,0,wmmfilt.dll,1.01.2427.0001
Infinite Pin Tee Filter,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.04.2600.1106
QT Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.1106
ShotBoundaryDet,0x00200000,1,1,wmmfilt.dll,1.01.2427.0001
MPEG Video Decoder,0x40000001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.1106
Indeo® video 4.4 Decompression Filter,0x00640000,1,1,ir41_32.ax,4.51.16.0003
Indeo® video 4.4 Compression Filter,0x00200000,1,1,ir41_32.ax,4.51.16.0003

WDM Streaming Data Transforms:
Microsoft Kernel Acoustic Echo Canceller,0x00200000,2,2,ksproxy.ax,5.01.2600.0000
Microsoft Kernel GS Wavetable Synthesizer,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,5.01.2600.0000
Microsoft Kernel DLS Synthesizer,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,5.01.2600.0000
Microsoft Kernel DRM Audio Descrambler,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,5.01.2600.0000

Video Compressors:
WMVideo Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
MSScreen encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
DV Video Encoder,0x00200000,0,0,qdv.dll,6.04.2600.0000
Indeo® video 5.10 Compression Filter,0x00100000,1,1,ir50_32.dll,5.2562.15.0055
MJPEG Compressor,0x00200000,0,0,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.1106
Cinepak Codec by Radius,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.04.2600.1106
Intel 4:2:0 Video V2.50,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.04.2600.1106
Intel Indeo(R) Video R3.2,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.04.2600.1106
Intel Indeo® Video 4.5,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.04.2600.1106
Indeo® video 5.10,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.04.2600.1106
Intel IYUV codec,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.04.2600.1106
Microsoft H.261 Video Codec,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.04.2600.1106
Microsoft H.263 Video Codec,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.04.2600.1106
Microsoft RLE,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.04.2600.1106
Microsoft Video 1,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.04.2600.1106

Audio Compressors:
WMAudio Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
IAC2,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.1106
IMA ADPCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.1106
PCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.1106
Microsoft ADPCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.1106
ACELP.net,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.1106
DSP Group TrueSpeech(TM),0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.1106
Windows Media Audio V1,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.1106
Windows Media Audio V2,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.1106
GSM 6.10,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.1106
Microsoft G.723.1,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.1106
CCITT A-Law,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.1106
CCITT u-Law,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.1106
MPEG Layer-3,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.1106

Audio Capture Sources:
NVIDIA(R) nForce(TM) Audio,0x00200000,0,0,qcap.dll,6.04.2600.1106

Midi Renderers:
Default MidiOut Device,0x00800000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.1106
Microsoft GS Wavetable SW Synth,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.1106
NVIDIA(R) DLS Synthesizer,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.1106

WDM Streaming Capture Devices:
,0x00000000,0,0,,
NVIDIA(R) nForce(TM) Audio,0x00200000,5,5,ksproxy.ax,5.01.2600.0000

WDM Streaming Rendering Devices:
NVIDIA(R) DLS Synthesizer,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,5.01.2600.0000
NVIDIA(R) Kernel Synthesizer,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,5.01.2600.0000
NVIDIA(R) nForce(TM) Audio,0x00200000,5,5,ksproxy.ax,5.01.2600.0000

WDM Streaming Mixer Devices:
Microsoft Kernel Wave Audio Mixer,0x00000000,0,0,,

BDA CP/CA Filters:
Decrypt/Tag,0x00200000,0,0,encdec.dll,
Encrypt/Tag,0x00200000,0,0,encdec.dll,
XDS Codec,0x00200000,0,0,encdec.dll,

Audio Renderers:
NVIDIA(R) nForce(TM) Audio,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.1106
Default DirectSound Device,0x00800000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.1106
Default WaveOut Device,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.1106
DirectSound: NVIDIA(R) nForce(TM) Audio,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.1106

WDM Streaming System Devices:
NVIDIA(R) DLS Synthesizer,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,5.01.2600.0000
NVIDIA(R) Kernel Synthesizer,0x00200000,1,0,ksproxy.ax,5.01.2600.0000
NVIDIA(R) nForce(TM) Audio,0x00200000,14,6,ksproxy.ax,5.01.2600.0000

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Input Devices
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Poll w/ Interrupt: No
Registry: OK

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Input Drivers
-------------

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DirectPlay Service Providers
----------------------------
Internet TCP/IP Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpwsockx.dll (5.01.2600.1106)
IPX Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpwsockx.dll (5.01.2600.1106)
Modem Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpmodemx.dll (5.01.2600.0000)
Serial Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpmodemx.dll (5.01.2600.0000)
DirectPlay8 Modem Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnmodem.dll (5.01.2600.0000)
DirectPlay8 Serial Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnmodem.dll (5.01.2600.0000)
DirectPlay8 IPX Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnwsock.dll (5.01.2600.0000)
DirectPlay8 TCP/IP Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnwsock.dll (5.01.2600.0000)
DirectPlay Test Result: All tests were successful.

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DirectPlay Lobbyable Apps
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[unmerged(41631)]

Did the avi_back and colour depth again (as I had just started from scratch after windows reinstall) and this time it was less than 5 minutes before lock up...

 

[Castellon]

Okay everything is way out of date.

Priorities are DirectX 9.0c or above.
Then the latest video drivers.

Your color depth is reading 32Bit at the time you did the report, keep it at 16 and the AVI folder renamed, also rename the MUsic folder to Music_back or something simmilar.

 

[unmerged(41631)]

OK, here goes...

When I reinstalled windows I installed the version of DirectX that was on the HOI2 disk. This appears to be "DX81" on my copy, whatever that is.

However, I have now dowloaded and installed DirectX 9.0c.

When I did the tests I had the latest graphic drivers hot from ATI as I downloaded/installed them when I reinstalled windows.

I have now installed the latest sound drivers again.

Must have missed the 16 bit thingie and have now remedied this.

(I assume this is when I click the ATI icon in the bottom right of my screen and check the 16BPP instead of the 32BPP. Please let me know if I'm doing this wrong)

When I reinstalled windows I actually had to go out and buy new firewall/anti-virus stuff etc as I had been relying on my old anti-virus and the fact that I had kept that up to date along with windows XP security for the last two years. Of course, as soon as I'd reinstalled it, my PC was compromised as soon as I tried to update them!

So I had to reinstall windows twice!

(Not strictly relevant but I felt the need to tell someone as my wife just says "yes dear" and my son can only really say "mummy", "daddy", "sticklebrick" and "all gone" - He's 17 months old. Less said about my mother's knowledge of PCs the better but she did look after my son while I did all this so I can't complain. Wife was at work before you ask)

So I turned off everything I can find that might be running with this regards (is there a quick way to do this?) and physically unplugged the PC from the internet (as my broadband connection is always open).

I then changed the music folder to music_back.

Then into HOI2...

First thing is no opening movie but I can live with that.

In fact, no music at all in the game but I'll live with that.

First try:

About 15 minutes play and then crash to desktop!

Actually I considered this progress as that has never actually happened before - It normally just locks up...

Second try:

About 5-10 mintes then lock up.

Third try:

A tiny little freeze after about 5-10 minutes.

Thought it had gone but after a second we're back - Again, I consider this progress.

Then an event message about a government change.

Then I click on the diplomacy tab for more details and it locks up again.


Any ideas?

(By the way, fully patched HOI2 again before I even started...)

 

[unmerged(41631)]

Actually, is this likely to be a hardware problem?

 

[Castellon]

I don't understand how you were compromised just by updating windows, say what you want about MS , their website is usually clean.

Anyway, I would say something is up, maybe a bad memory chip.

And if you follow my standard advice about no programs running in the background you do not have an ATI icon in the system tray to click on.

You right click on the desktop-select properties then the setting tab.

 

[jpd]

I don't understand how you were compromised just by updating windows, say what you want about MS , their website is usually clean.

Yup, but the rest of the Internet isn't.

If you are unlucky enough to only have a dialup internet connection without a NAT enabled router in between, then your system will be compromised before the first security patch has completed downloading from the Microsoft update server.

The only way around this is to install ZoneAlarm (or equivalent) BEFORE connecting to the internet.

Jan Peter

 

[Castellon]

I don't know if I buy that.

Are you saying it is theoretically possible or are you saying it is likely you will get a virus.

 

[unmerged(41631)]

We're going off the point here a bit but I had spyware and virus attacks pretty much instantly...

First time I restarted the computer a somewhat bizarre window opened telling me how I can remove all the porn I've been looking at from my PC!!!

Needless to say I hadn't been anywhere but here, ATI, Microsoft and the BBC.

Cheeky little cyberbuggers...

Interestingly enough the BBC did an experiment to see how long it took an unprotected PC to have to be hooked up to the internet to get a virus.

It took 8 seconds!

I'm with jpd on this one even though he (or she) has mentioned some big PC words I don't understand.

Anyway that problem is now resolved so back to the lock-ups:

So what exactly do I have to do get the ATI logo to go away?

Or should I just get Evesham to send an engineer around? (PC is still under on-site warranty so they will send an engineer if I can convice them it's the hardware - Which I probably can bearing in mind that I've reinstalled windows. When I mentioned memory chips to them though they reckoned I should get some "blue screen" problems if it was the memory chips... )

 

[jpd]

To Castellon: Yes, it's possible, and not just theory. In my daytime job I've had to restore numerous PC's that were fatally infected with aggressive virusses within 5 minutes of being connected to the internet.

The security holes in MS Windows are so severe that you don't even have to do anything. Just dial-in and wait. That's basically enough, sadly.

About memory chips failing. When you have a bad memory module, what basically happens is erratic behaviour. That can mean anything, really. When it happens in a piece of system level program code (Windows kernel, device drivers, that sort of stuff), that most likely will result, sooner or later, in a blue screen error. But it can also mean that the system freezes, spontaneously start rebooting, or any other weird behaviour.

When it happens in an memory area where programs tend to run, or the running programs store data, you can get crashes to desktop, the application simply stopping, or running wild. In the worst case, it will corrupt the documents or data you are working on, and you won't notice it until much, much later.

Jan Peter

 

[Castellon]

If you have good support, they may be able to provide you with a little test program, that will at least minimally test your memory.

As for the ATI system tray program, there should be an option to shut it down.

Try, right-click on desktop, select properties, Setting tab, Advanced button, OPtions tab, deselect "Enable ATItaskbar Icon aplication."