Hi, I'm playing just now the old Putin mod and I find it great! There are developments or news about this new Modern Day mod?
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This could be great if it gets a release
May I suggest ideology names?
Democratic Ideologies=Same as base game
Communist Ideologies
Left Wing Radical=Same
Leninist=Totalitarian Socialist
Stalinist=Communist
Fascist/Far right ideologies
Paternal Autocrat=Ring Wing Radical
Fascist=Neo Fascist
National Socialist=Radical Nationalist
May I suggest ideology names?
Democratic Ideologies=Same as base game
Communist Ideologies
Left Wing Radical=Same
Leninist=Totalitarian Socialist
Stalinist=Communist
Fascist/Far right ideologies
Paternal Autocrat=Ring Wing Radical
Fascist=Neo Fascist
National Socialist=Radical Nationalist
I would reverse it to
Leninist = Communist
and
Stalinist = Totalitarian Socialist
While Far-Right would be reorganized to
Pat Aut = Right-Wing Radical
Fascist = Totalitarian Nationalist
Nat Soc = Neofascism.
I think a modern day mod need only be accurate as possible. Tensions are high now and war has been going for most of the last 20 years. N Korea now has nukes and China wants a chunk of the Pacific. Under Clinton was Kosovo and Desert Fox. Before that, Somalia, Panama, Desert Storm. Perhaps start something in 1991 at the end of TGC.
I'm not sure how to manipulate the results myself; but to me it seems like both terrorism and anti-terrorism can be represented in the game fairly well.
I'm not sure how to manipulate the results myself; but to me it seems like both terrorism and anti-terrorism can be represented in the game fairly well.
National Socialism is still very much National Socialism. In Russia they began to call it National Bolshevism.
The question that needs to be addressed, is where does anarcho-monarchist futurism fit into all of this?
The question that needs to be addressed, is where does anarcho-monarchist futurism fit into all of this?
So much effort gets put into trying to nuance fascism from historic examples of communism. Apart from the dogma of the propaganda, they're the same. They both believe in absolute centralized power, along with indoctrination for self-preservation; they're both the enemies of democracy. Democracy on the other hand, in order to preserve itself, will have some amount of socialism for self-preservation. I would argue both fascism and communism are right-wing.
Oh please not this bullshit again.Facism is based around the belive of ones nation and race being superior that is a traditional right wing position.Communism as an ideal is based around the belive that the working class should unite and create a comunist society that is not based on nations or states .
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Annnnnd this is partly why the Putin Mod was banned on this forum.
Good Luck boys!!!!
We all end up believing what we want to believe. It's about how people are governed. Centralized absolute power sustained by propaganda is just that and you can call it what you want. Liberal democracy is the opposite of both forms. Keeping people unclear helps keep the political landscape fertile.
So there isn't a developing new Modern Day mod?
Hopefully this mod does not face the same fate.
Prole Holiday determines and cortupts politics. At least, get the mod going and no arguing.
https://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2010/11/anarcho-monarchism Tolkien on political ambition and governance. Culture as mediator of all local events.
"My political opinions lean more and more to Anarchy (philosophically understood, meaning the abolition of control not whiskered men with bombs)—or to ‘unconstitutional’ Monarchy. I would arrest anybody who uses the word State (in any sense other than the inanimate real of England and its inhabitants, a thing that has neither power, rights nor mind); and after a chance of recantation, execute them if they remained obstinate! If we could go back to personal names, it would do a lot of good. Government is an abstract noun meaning the art and process of governing and it should be an offence to write it with a capital G or so to refer to people."
"Not one in a million is fit for it, and least of all those who seek the opportunity. At least it is done only to a small group of men who know who their master is. The mediaevals were only too right in taking nolo episcopari as the best reason a man could give to others for making him a bishop. Grant me a king whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways, or race-horses; and who has the power to sack his Vizier (or whatever you dare call him) if he does not like the cut of his trousers. And so on down the line. But, of course, the fatal weakness of all that—after all only the fatal weakness of all good natural things in a bad corrupt unnatural world—is that it works and has only worked when all the world is messing along in the same good old inefficient human way . . . . There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal."
Anarcho-monarchist Futurism pl0x!
https://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2010/11/anarcho-monarchism Tolkien on political ambition and governance. Culture as mediator of all local events.
"My political opinions lean more and more to Anarchy (philosophically understood, meaning the abolition of control not whiskered men with bombs)—or to ‘unconstitutional’ Monarchy. I would arrest anybody who uses the word State (in any sense other than the inanimate real of England and its inhabitants, a thing that has neither power, rights nor mind); and after a chance of recantation, execute them if they remained obstinate! If we could go back to personal names, it would do a lot of good. Government is an abstract noun meaning the art and process of governing and it should be an offence to write it with a capital G or so to refer to people."
"Not one in a million is fit for it, and least of all those who seek the opportunity. At least it is done only to a small group of men who know who their master is. The mediaevals were only too right in taking nolo episcopari as the best reason a man could give to others for making him a bishop. Grant me a king whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways, or race-horses; and who has the power to sack his Vizier (or whatever you dare call him) if he does not like the cut of his trousers. And so on down the line. But, of course, the fatal weakness of all that—after all only the fatal weakness of all good natural things in a bad corrupt unnatural world—is that it works and has only worked when all the world is messing along in the same good old inefficient human way . . . . There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal."
Anarcho-monarchist Futurism pl0x!
I am not quite on the topic, SORRY, but I want to ask ... please, who has the latest version of novapaddy’s creation - mod "Putin", put the link in private messages to me Thx and sorry for offtop.
Thx and sorry for offtop.
It sounds to me like the best way to play towards that is for the mod to get AT as soon as possible because then it does not reflect real life. I can think of three ways of doing that:
1) A future date like 2050 that lets the mod go wild with what it sets up in the scenario.
2) Add a serious point of divergence or several to the mod, don't know rightly what that would be though; Putin getting assassinated and Russia descending into civil war sounds a bit overdone stuff like what they came up with in the '90s and I can't think of any way to mess up Europe other than Germany going crazy and the Americas with some dictator taking over the USA. China can pretty much get Japan's event chains for WW2 in reverse, anything to just get the game with the AU tag. Perhaps a nuclear war between Pakistan and India and the possibility for one in the Middle East gets nukes out of the game through public pressure and changes the international situation?
3) The mod is historically accurate but just avoids referring to specific politics and reads like IR coursework or something.
I would support 1 and 2 both. Last year I was actually trying to write a short story of several vignettes set from 2051 to ca. 2065, so I could try to offer some of my ideas and see if people are interested.
I think I also mentioned the cyberpunk-ish mod I was drafting with @Gukpa upthread, with characters from fiction appearing. Guess something like that might work in any time period from ~1982 onwards.
I thought up a crazy idea of a scenario were the leaders and populations of 1936 appear in the modern-day scenario and have to deal with the situation as it stands in 2003, though it's probably too silly and does not make any sense (not that it would have to). Probably a decent idea for a comic AAR.