Not sure how to answer without giving the game away, but I will say that certain parties doing well will decide which assimilation choices I make in the early game.
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Okay, so no personal mod events? Like I said, my question of strong minorities losing out due to coalition still having an in-game effect was aimed at the latter half of the game when a large amount of ideologies and parties begin to spawn, not the current situation of stay together vs. get away that the current parties have. For example: If a socialist plurality - Paradox forum plurality, not the literal in-game system - were to lose out due to a conservative/reactionary coalition - once again, the one created by our votes, not the in-game system - in the way I am thinking of with my question, more unrest for the lower class would be created. Basically, it is just a question as to how far are you going to go with the system.
Again, I'm not at liberty to discuss how I apply the forum-level to the game-level because I have found in IAARs that tends to create problems as people try to play the system to their advantage. It's better that you guys are blissfully ignorant to the behind the scenes goings on.
I will be making ingame interventions based on voting results outside of normal mechanics. For example, if we end up having a mass uprising installing an autocratic government that is impossible to overcome by normal means it will happen in 'canon', but if commentators vote to overrule it I will generate a sort of civil war or coup scenario. I'm not ruling out custom mods.
I will be making ingame interventions based on voting results outside of normal mechanics. For example, if we end up having a mass uprising installing an autocratic government that is impossible to overcome by normal means it will happen in 'canon', but if commentators vote to overrule it I will generate a sort of civil war or coup scenario. I'm not ruling out custom mods.
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Okay, got it. I was just curious about whether it was going to have any effect in itself, as opposed to anything specific anyways. Thank you for the answer
A DoD AAR, interesting. But the English Nationalists aren't going far enough, they need to install the King of Beornia as the English king!
England: The English Nationalists
France: Parti Liberale
England: The English Nationalists
France: Parti Liberale
Always enjoy reading DoD AARs!
England: The Liberal Party
France: Parti Conservateur
England: The Liberal Party
France: Parti Conservateur
The Election of 1835
Throughout the political circles of Paris, the election of 1835 was much anticipated. But nobody looked forward with such excitement than His Majesty, King Henri X.
His Majesty, King Henri X Plantagenet of England and France
Having ascended to the Double-Crown in 1832, he had not yet had an elected Parliament of his own - the government he had was an inheritance from the previous King. His Lord Chancellor, the Henri de Bordeaux, Count of Bordeaux, was his current Head of Government - a loyal Anglois Unionist, a Conservative, and a well-respected statesman - but King Henri X was a professed student of constitutional rule, and the upcoming election was an opportunity to prove himself as the Estates-General's greatest defender. Rumour had it that, on the day that the election results were officially announced, the King woke before dawn and, in his evening wear, collected newspapers printed in England and the provinces personally to see what the two Kingdoms had decided.
The Estates-General
Left to Right:
English Nationalists (85)
Liberal Parties (136)
Conservative Parties (223)
Légitimistes (57)
The English Parliament
Left to Right
English Nationalists (85)
The Liberal Party (56)
The Royalist Party (85)
The French Parliament
Left to Right
Parti Liberale (80)
Parti Conservateur (138)
Légitimistes (57)
The results were, at first, unclear. Whilst Conservative dominance remained in France, England had suffered nothing less than a landslide in favour of the former Liberal Duke of York's English Nationalist bloc. The Liberals, thought to be in a good position to disrupt the Conservative majority, collapsed under the weight of nationalist pressures. And the Légitimistes - who actively refused to acknowledge King Henri X as the rightful King - won a fifth of the French seats. It was not immediately clear if the new government would be a Liberal-Nationalist coalition, a continuation of the de Bordeaux Government, or an outright hung Estates-General.
Lord Chancellor Henri de Bordeaux, Count of Bordeux, Leader of the Parti Conservateur
The prospect of a minority government - even by such a slim degree - was unappealing to de Bordeaux. Coalition with French Liberals enticed him even less. However, as he prepared to leave his estate in Bordeaux for Paris, he received an interesting offer from a mayor of a local Légitimiste stronghold.
The Légitimistes were principally an absentationist party. As they refused to recognise the legitimacy of Henri X, they did not recognise his Estates-General. However, a minority of the Party considered themselves dedicated to the cause of French Nationalism over the cause of a half-extinct dynasty. They offered de Bordeaux the an easy path to Premiership - they would split from the Légitimistes and lend their votes to his Conservatives. The price was a series of pro-French reforms which would swing power away from England and towards the French majority.
Though an odd offer for a party of die-hard anti-Plantagents, there was reason behind it. One of keystones of the Légitimiste cause was that the Plantagenet monarchy was fundamentally an English crown imposed on the people of France. But this was a gross misrepresentation of the Dual Monarchy - the capital was French, the language of Government was French, and the Sovereign, for all intents and purposes, was French. To an Anglois Unionist like de Bordeaux, French Nationalism was a tool that could be harnessed for Unionism. And, needless to say, the prospect of a majority in the Estates-General was also a mitigating factor. The few French Nationalists understood this, and they were willing to turn their back on the cause of Restoration in exchange for the Dual Monarchy to lean towards the French over the English.
To the English Nationalists this was nothing less than betrayal - and to the Liberals, witless provocation. The Conservative parties, whose uniting political ideal was the continuation of the Anglo-French Dual Monarchy, had disrupted the delicate balance of Anglo-French relations for political gain. The Liberal Parties, under the leadership of Arthur de Caen, Count of Oxford, rallied what little control of the Estates-General remained to him and prepared for Opposition. Meanwhile, the English Nationalist Edward of York, Duke of York, days after the appointment of Conservative-Royalists to government, made an ominous speech, in English, at Livreport:
"... Those men of means and power in Paris, who days ago professed utmost loyalty to His Majesty, now rub shoulders with Frenchmen whom seek to impose a tyranny of Valois upon both Kingdoms. I fear that, if we continue down this path, once more shall a Norman yoke fall upon a Saxon neck."
Edward of York, Duke of York, English Nationalist
Henri X himself was nervous that former supporters of the Provencial Restoration now uphelp his governmental majority. De Bordeaux, pressured by the King, made a specific, personal oath of loyalty to the Plantagenet dynasty by the defectors a condition for pro-French reform. The English Royalists, though similarly perturbed, also saw themselves as the defender of the French-speaking minority in England - to them, the Yorkist landslide in the north was a far greater threat to the survival of the Dual Monarchy. They grumbled, but not loudly enough.
With the drama of 1835 coming to a close, the Dual Monarchy creaked forward into the next five years.
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A first agreement has been found, and the Conservatives are allowed to remain in power. If things would end up getting too unstable, the Conservatives could always turn back towards the English Nationalists and find a similar deal with them. 
Not sure however if the voters of the French Légitimistes will be satisfied with this deal.
Not sure however if the voters of the French Légitimistes will be satisfied with this deal.
Long live the Plantagenets, Long live the Dual Monarchy!
Now we just need to export Elizabeth to Amazonie and ensure that Arcadia, Ameriga and Europa all bow before the one dynasty to rule them all.
Now we just need to export Elizabeth to Amazonie and ensure that Arcadia, Ameriga and Europa all bow before the one dynasty to rule them all.
It's a first step for a true French Kingdom. But this small victory is surely not enough for the true legitimiste (who certainly won't accept this compromise).
Well Glorious Revolution here we come
And I love the irony of putting Louis Napoleon Bonaparte as the Duke of York
And I love the irony of putting Louis Napoleon Bonaparte as the Duke of York
The English will strike when Ireland does. For now we wait, and watch as the French traitors just consort with a soon to be Half-Kingdom. Scandinavia will be a useful ally in scotland!
I like this and I am glad to see some of the concepts I put forward in the Dual Monarchy history brought forward!
Now obviously the Parliament of the People's election just occurred means that the Parliament of the Lords electon would have occurred as well. Any plans to show the results of that? Obviously there is the potential for a unified government but there could also be divided government with the Nationalists gaining a 101 majority over the 200 seat chamber. Mechanics for there right now are nobles elect 50% of the electorate with the King appointing the remaining 50% (I would expect reforms to be demanded by segments of the population though, allowing for more noble / clergy control and then even further later on in time regular citizen support.)
Now obviously the Parliament of the People's election just occurred means that the Parliament of the Lords electon would have occurred as well. Any plans to show the results of that? Obviously there is the potential for a unified government but there could also be divided government with the Nationalists gaining a 101 majority over the 200 seat chamber. Mechanics for there right now are nobles elect 50% of the electorate with the King appointing the remaining 50% (I would expect reforms to be demanded by segments of the population though, allowing for more noble / clergy control and then even further later on in time regular citizen support.)