Manresa should be a town, and not other Western Catalan locations

[Indíbil]

Manresa should be a town. At that period, it had around 3000-5000 citizens, compared to Cervera, which had far fewer. It had one of the biggest Jewish communities in Catalonia too, after Barcelona and Perpinyà

TORRAS I SERRA, M, (1997). “La immigració a la Manresa medieval”, Manresa: Dovella, 58, p. 36.
https://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manresa

 

[Atromb]

Manresa should be a city. At that period, it had around 3000-5000 citizens, compared to Cervera, which had far fewer. It had one of the biggest Jewish communities in Catalonia too, after Barcelona and Perpinyà

TORRAS I SERRA, M, (1997). “La immigració a la Manresa medieval”, Manresa: Dovella, 58, p. 36.
https://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manresa

Do you have any good sources? I was trying to review urban locations in Aragon but I wasn't able to find a good source for it. I'm definitely a bit doubtful on whether Cervera, Puigcerda and Castellón really deserve to be towns, and tentatively agree with you on Manresa possibly being a town, and Zaragoza and Palma could possibly be upgraded to cities.

 

[Álvaro Núñez de Lara]

You mean a town right? No way a location with 5,000 people is going to be a city lol.

It should not even be a town really. Having a jewish community does not make you into a city

 

[Indíbil]

You mean a town right? No way a location with 5,000 people is going to be a city lol.

It should not even be a town really. Having a jewish community does not make you into a city

Yes, town. Smaller locations are town, so I don't see the logic there.

 

[Álvaro Núñez de Lara]

Yes, town. Smaller locations are town, so I don't see the logic there.

We'll need to see the game ourselves but if any location that has 5000 pops qualifies to be a town, well...90% of locations would be a town, which does not make sense.

 

[Indíbil]

Do you have any good sources? I was trying to review urban locations in Aragon but I wasn't able to find a good source for it. I'm definitely a bit doubtful on whether Cervera, Puigcerda and Castellón really deserve to be towns, and tentatively agree with you on Manresa possibly being a town, and Zaragoza and Palma could possibly be upgraded to cities.

SUENAGA PORTUGUÈS, Kay (2014). Estimació matemàtica de la població de la Corona d'Aragó. Acta Historica et Archæologica Mediævalia, 31: 325-336.
CABESTANY i FORT, Joan F. (1969). "Els fogatges, font per a l’estudi de la topografia econòmica i social de la Barcelona del segle xiv". La corona de Aragón en el siglo xiv. Vol. 1.
ORTÍ i GOST, Pere (1999). "Una primera aproximació als fogatges catalans de la dècada de 1360". Anuario de Estudios Medievales, 29: 747–774.
FELIU i MONTFORT, Gaspar (1999). "La demografia baixmedieval catalana: estat de la qüestió i propostes de futur". Revista d’Història Medieval, Departament d’Història Medieval de la Universitat de València, 10: 13–44.
LALIENA CORBERA, Carlos and SESMA MUÑOZ, José Ángel (2004). La población de Aragón en la Edad Media (siglos XIII-XV) : estudios de demografía histórica. Leyere.

 

[Atromb]

We'll need to see the game ourselves but if any location that has 5000 pops qualifies to be a town, well...90% of locations would be a town, which does not make sense.

You overestimate the size of urban centers at that point in time. 5k could very well be the cut off point for towns and 15-20k for cities.

 

[Álvaro Núñez de Lara]

You overestimate the size of urban centers at that point in time. 5k could very well be the cut off point for towns and 15-20k for cities.

Indeed which is why I said we cannot qualify whether something is a town or not just by population but whether it was in fact, legally, considered a town. It had its market, its urban development, urban industry etc.