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March of the Eagles Developer diary 8 - Scripting Historical Events

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StephenT said:
I'm amused. :)

I'm also quite happy for the quantity of beer to be given in litres: this a game about Napoleon, after all, and the French armies were campaigning to bring the metric system to Europe! Though if you must use the American spelling 'liter' instead of the English and French spelling 'litre'...

However, I have a bug report!

That should be "resulting in more than 1,470,000 liters of beer bursting out and gushing into the street".



The BBC's description of the event also mentions this extra detail:

"Fearful that all the beer should go to waste, though, hundreds of people ran outside carrying pots, pans, and kettles to scoop it up - while some simply stooped low and lapped at the liquid washing through the streets. However, the tide was too strong for many, and as injured people began arriving at the nearby Middlesex Hospital there was almost a riot as other patients demanded to know why they weren't being supplied with beer too - they could smell it on the flood survivors, and were insistent that they were missing out on a party!"

There was an urban legend at the time that as well as the 8 people actually killed in the flood, a ninth died a few days later of alcohol poisoning...
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There's unfortunately a limit on how many words and letters we can use for each event, if there weren't any limits I would have written more... Thank you for the bug report, I'm not a native English speaker (Swedish is my first language) and "litre" is "liter" in Swedish, therefore I wrote "liter".

FOARP said:
Why is this in Metric units? We use imperial measurements in the UK.
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Because I'm a Swede and understand "liter" better than "gallons" :) It might get changed before the game is released, though.
 
So I'm guessing that March of the Eagles is going to be like HoI in that it'll be a specific time period and scripted thus? That's cool.
 
I like scripted events but I love strategical effects (à la HoI3) and decisions (à la Vicky2) triggered when the player meets some conditions... Could we expect something like that in March of the Eagles?

Looking forward it :) I love PDS wargaming, and I can't help having them in other context than WWII.
 
Right, keep ignoring me paradox. I'll just skip this game and buy the inevitable Napoleon's Campaign's II by Ageod, they truly listen to their fans. And I happen to be a licensed attorney in the USA...
 
Uokko said:
Than it would also be "historical and appropriate" to make the game only in french language, according to your reasoning.
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No, because the French spread the metric system to most of the other countries in Europe too, not only the French-speaking ones.

Not to mention that most Paradox players come from countries that use metric, but only a small minority of them speak French.
:p
 
StephenT said:
Actually, most people in the UK use metric, unless they're in their sixties or older. If you buy a can of beer, it will probably say "440 millilitres" on the can.

The metric system was invented in France in 1795 and spread by Napoleon's armies across Europe. It's entirely historical and appropriate to the period.
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. . . . but not in the UK, which, you may have noticed, was never invaded by Napoleon, and only bowed theoretically and in some areas to the metric system in recent years. I don't know which country you come from, but the one I come from is one in which people still measure their height in feet and inches, their weight in stones, their speed in miles per hour, and their beer (and milk for that matter) most definitely comes in pints (PS - you buy your beer in cans? Philistine!).
 
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FOARP said:
I don't know which country you come from, but the one I come from is one in which people still measure their height in feet and inches, their weight in stones, their speed in miles per hour, and their beer (and milk for that matter) most definitely comes in pints (PS - you buy your beer in cans? Philistine!).
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I come from the country where, with a few clear exceptions which are laid out in law (the mile on road signs, the pint when buying draught beer) or entrenched in popular custom (measurements of the human body), the only people still clinging to the Imperial system are elderly fuddy-duddies and reactionary Euro-sceptics.
:p

Also, since 1999 your milk doesn't come in pints, it comes in fractions of a litre. Even though, in classic British compromise style, the containers are still the same ones we used before metrication, so a large bottle of milk from the supermarket will say "2.77 litres" on the label. But other groceries are definitely metric - you buy an 800 gram loaf of bread, a 250 gram packet of butter, and so on. You buy petrol by the litre.

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Anyway, back on topic- if you're going to insist on the historically-accurate measurement units being used, rather than the ones most people today will understand, then the British in the year 1814 didn't measure beer by the gallon, they measured it by the barrel. The London Beer Flood consisted of7664 barrels of beer.
 
hannibal_barca said:
Right, keep ignoring me paradox. I'll just skip this game and buy the inevitable Napoleon's Campaign's II by Ageod, they truly listen to their fans. And I happen to be a licensed attorney in the USA...
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Well, it's pretty clear that they have run into some sort of snag and had to rush this replacement dev diary. I don't think you have to be a licensed attorney to come to that conclusion. Also, what that last bit a threat? Awesome:D
 
meanmanturbo said:
well, it's pretty clear that they have run into some sort of snag and had to rush this replacement dev diary. I don't think you have to be a licensed attorney to come to that conclusion. Also, what that last bit a threat? Awesome:d
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lol
 
StephenT said:
Actually, most people in the UK use metric, unless they're in their sixties or older. If you buy a can of beer, it will probably say "440 millilitres" on the can.

The metric system was invented in France in 1795 and spread by Napoleon's armies across Europe. It's entirely historical and appropriate to the period.
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Most of us drink our beer in pints actually.:happy:


By the way I think the event should talk of "porter" instead of beer.:cool:
 
But hey, the PICTURE!!

City: yes ?
A city is somehow different from a regular province?
Religion is gone?
There is culture tho.
Roads? No doubt has something to do with supplies.
Civilized??!? As opposed to savages? Oh my that will be an intresting variable... (but our country wasnt barbaric in 1805!!! We had 4000 years of glorious history! :p )

Wonder what civilized is good for. Resupplying troops? Hospitals? More econ, someone actually cares if you claim it or burn it?
 
StephenT said:
I come from the country where, with a few clear exceptions which are laid out in law (the mile on road signs, the pint when buying draught beer) or entrenched in popular custom (measurements of the human body), the only people still clinging to the Imperial system are elderly fuddy-duddies and reactionary Euro-sceptics.
:p

Also, since 1999 your milk doesn't come in pints, it comes in fractions of a litre. Even though, in classic British compromise style, the containers are still the same ones we used before metrication, so a large bottle of milk from the supermarket will say "2.77 litres" on the label. But other groceries are definitely metric - you buy an 800 gram loaf of bread, a 250 gram packet of butter, and so on. You buy petrol by the litre.

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Anyway, back on topic- if you're going to insist on the historically-accurate measurement units being used, rather than the ones most people today will understand, then the British in the year 1814 didn't measure beer by the gallon, they measured it by the barrel. The London Beer Flood consisted of7664 barrels of beer.
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I support my British brother that wants the proper units used, not a system invented by people that could apparently only handle conversions but by multiplication in units of 10...
 
How about events off the map?

Russia has taken persia, contest india? lose coin, manpower... maybe get extra income. A bulb gain is given and london might lose some income.
Or sell lousiana? lose income but gain cash.
The Schäffer affair. Invest money, maybe get a payoff.
Deal harsher with haiti.. 50k+ troops lost.. and the spic.. err.. sugar flows again.. :p
The whole spanish american issue, brits were fundng bolivar, even sending troops to get direct trade control.


And sugarbeet? (yes, the white gold must flow!)
 
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