Mighty Poland Falls Overnight

[Sidney]

Poland was going ape-sh!t in my game as Brandenburg. They fought a string of wars and by 1520 had carved out a nice empire by adding, 3/4ths of Bohemia and carving a swath through Austria from Ostmarch to Tyrol!

I was a bit afraid of the Poles at this point. It is now 1530 and I'm checking to see about expired alliances and I see a scroll message about France has a monopoly in Danzig- which I think is odd. Checking my map France has apparently inherited Poland! France, who had taken Milan, now has a stretch of land from the Pyrennes to Tula it can traverse (Savoy is an ally).

The IGC doesn't treat anyone but you as a major IIRC so this is a rather nasty little side effect of that decision. It will make for an interesting game to see how this plays out. France will have all kinds of problems keeping the revolts in the sprawling Polish domains down so I'm not sure if this hurts or helps them.

 

[Carolus Rex]

Even if Poland re appears due to revolts, France will for sure get some land winnings. Lucky bastards.

Once I started a game as France in order to get rid of playing up in the north, with all the attrition and stuff.
Ok, 50 years into the game I inherit Sweden... damnit!

 

[Depp]

Oohh, that one would be interesting to watch for sure. When I played Spain just to try it out i inherited poland as well, now that was really alot of trouble at the start, but it helped when I wanted to take all of europe later...

 

[Gerrit]

Just a small question. How do you inherit other nations? I heard something like through royal marriages but how does that work?

 

[Carolus Rex]

If you have a RM and the other Monarch passes away and there is no monarch to come(meaning he died before he died historically) and lead the country, the country with the highest relation to the country with no monarch inherits the country. Get it?

 

[unmerged(4633)]

Not always, I dont think. It doesnt happen often enough for it to always happen whenever a King dies before his time.

 

[Gerrit]

Originally posted by GNGSpam
Not always, I dont think. It doesnt happen often enough for it to always happen whenever a King dies before his time.

The problem is that it is very hard to find out how much it happens that a king dies before his time. It happens quite often with the human player but who knows how much this happens to the AI coutries. Btw I haven't seen the computer take over countries that way. But I once inheretid spain while I was playing with austria. There are the revolts not that I care much.

 

[State Machine]

Austria must have inherited Hungary in one of my games. In January, his relation with Hungary was +161, while mine (Venice) was +200. Four months later Hungary is part of Austria - no message (like "Hungary is annexed by Austria"). Four months is not quite enough time to get the relationship greater than +190, vasselize, and then annex! And of course, there was no war going on.

I did have random events on - this may also be necessary.

 

[BiB]

Originally posted by State Machine
Austria must have inherited Hungary in one of my games. In January, his relation with Hungary was +161, while mine (Venice) was +200. Four months later Hungary is part of Austria - no message (like "Hungary is annexed by Austria"). Four months is not quite enough time to get the relationship greater than +190, vasselize, and then annex! And of course, there was no war going on.

I did have random events on - this may also be necessary.

Inheritances are a random event Inheritances come with an annex message though. Did u have it turned on?

 

[Shadowstrike]

You know, I have yet to see a single inheritance event. nd it gives me a good laugh when I hear that Hansetag has gone insane...

 

[State Machine]

Did u have it turned on?

Yes, actually I did get a message.

I agree inheritences only happen when random events are on.

 

[BiB]

What's to agree ? It IS a random events

 

[State Machine]

Well umm (desperately trying to sound intellegent), what I meant to say was that the inheritence was caused by the random event of a monarch dying early. Sometimes when that happens, an inheritence will happen.

 

[BiB]

I see ...

 

[unmerged(4007)]

AI does get inheritance. But it is likely all you will ever see is the "annex" message.

Certain nations are more likely to be inherited than others. England is more likely to inherit Hannover, Austria is likely to inherit Hungary. thee are a couple others too, but I can't think of them off the top of my head right now.

 

[Carolus Rex]

You only inherit when you play with random events on, right??

 

[State Machine]

You only inherit when you play with random events on, right??

That's my opinion.

And I agree that there are some inheritences that are more likely to occur - like England inheriting Hannover. I don't know whether that is because of diplo-matrix or something that just makes good relations more likely, or some hard-coded behavior.

But, I can say that in my last England game (probably IGC2.2), I had terrible relations with most everybody (no warmongering!). I felt very bad - bloody Brandenburg was going to inherit Hannover if the conditions were right, not me. Boo hoo. So why did England have bad relations with its tradional friends (EU speaking) - beats me.

 

[Agelastus]

I've heard that-never actually inherited Hannover as England though. Did the Hanseatic League once though, which since they technically don't have a monarch in the conventional sense seemed pretty silly to me!