I started a game as House Harlaw of the Iron Isles and noticed that they weren't in possession of a Valyrian sword like they should be. Nightfall is the name of the family sword and it is mentioned in Capters 19 and 29 of A Feast for Crows.
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They have it in Robert's Rebellion and later scenarios that's for sure.. Harras Harlaw has it in those scenarios
Which start date did you pick? I haven't tried the newest version of the mod so I can't check and see if they still have it, but they had it in the older versions of the mod, have you checked the Valyrian sword list for its holder?
The first start date, The Bleeding Years I think its called. I see it in later start dates, but the sword should be around in earlier dates as well. It is said the sword is 'as storied as Dunstan Drumm's Red Rain.' which tells me that the sword isn't a reforging such as Widow's Wail and Oathkeeper, or at least not a recent reforging. Even assuming the blade was won by Erik, Harras' father, off another knight, it should have existed earlier.
I checked the list and it doesn't exist.
I checked the list and it doesn't exist.
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I think it's fair for the Harlaws to not have it from the beginning since, let's be honest, they probably paid the iron price for it. But somebody should own it in the first bookmarks.
I would be fine with this, it would go along well with the Iron Isles raider mentality. Theres no canonical information on when the Harlaws acquired the sword but the book makes it clear that the sword has a long history that should be reflected in the game. I was looking at the other known Valyrian Blades that have been lost and it doesn't appear as if the sword can be any of them. If any of those blades had been found and claimed by the Harlaws I'm sure it would have been mentioned somewhere in their story.
I can't speak for the current version, but in previous versions (and the books) Rodrik doesn't actually have the sword. Instead, Harras Harlaw has it. He should be the heir to Rodricks holdings at the start, and a baron.
Yeah it appears that Nightfall doesn't exist at all until 8255. It shall be fixed for the next update, thatnks for pointing it out.
When it was added the Harlaws only acquiring it recently was intended. But I guess it cant hurt for them or another House to have it earlier as well.
I'd guess at House Tarth owning Nightfall, what with Evanfall Hall being their keep. Whilst their sigil is two moons and two suns. The sword itself also has a Moonstone Pummel.
Edit: I've given the sword to the Tarths for the above reasons. The Harlaws get it off them around 196AL. So relatively recent.
Edit: I've given the sword to the Tarths for the above reasons. The Harlaws get it off them around 196AL. So relatively recent.
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Do the Ironborn raid along the east coast of westeros though? Considering the competition of the Steps and the Royal fleet being stationed there I have to question how likely it would be for the sword to be taken in a raid.
A more likely explanation is it was taken during Balon Greyjoy's rebellion. House Tarth would have been called by Stannis as part of the effort to put down the uprising (Yes, Stannis, Robert controlled the Crownlands and Stannis the Stormlands.)
Guess I'm just trying to make sense of non-canonical history here though and we can make up our own story on house harlaw acquired the blade.
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In ASOIAF everything is stretched out over long, long periods of time. Starks being around for thousands of years etc.
Nothing that looks recent really has to be recent. If they acquired the sword 500 years ago it would still be "recent". No need to think of a way for them to have acquired it over the last view decades. If Tywin tried for years to get another Valyrian sword for his house it shouldn't be easy for the Harlaw's to acquire one and then hold on to it.
If the Tarthes lost the sword during Balon's rebellion they surely would want it back, wouldn't they? The Ironborn lost after all.
Nothing that looks recent really has to be recent. If they acquired the sword 500 years ago it would still be "recent". No need to think of a way for them to have acquired it over the last view decades. If Tywin tried for years to get another Valyrian sword for his house it shouldn't be easy for the Harlaw's to acquire one and then hold on to it.
If the Tarthes lost the sword during Balon's rebellion they surely would want it back, wouldn't they? The Ironborn lost after all.
They sure do in the mod.
And then there's Euron Greyjoy to consider. I doubt he and Victarion are the only Ironborn to ever venture away from the western shores. Why not some as yet unrecorded Harlaw opportunist?