MKJ's Map - Discussion Thread

[unmerged(51378)]

I like the vanilla map's textstyle, wich I think is better than MyMaps and WATKs ones. I however don't like that it has to few provinces and that areas like Arabia, Mongolia and inner Africa is PTI.

I might try MyMap-AGCEEP one day. Is it good? o

It is okay. Many bugs, sadly. But Europe is excellent. The worst thing is that they have Inner Africa in it.

 

[Prince Ares]

It is okay. Many bugs, sadly. But Europe is excellent. The worst thing is that they have Inner Africa in it.

Has you anything against Inner Africa? Of course, it is a bit strange with the Sahara desert as a non-PTI, where nobody can live.

 

[Mad King James]

Has you annything agianst Inner Africa? Of course, it is a bit strange with the Sahara desert as a non-PTI, where nobody can survive or live.

Errm... what about the Tuareg, and all the oasis cities thriving off the salt trade? The open desert is uninhabitable of course, but that's PTI in MyMap as well.

 

[unmerged(51378)]

Has you annything agianst Inner Africa? Of course, it is a bit strange with the Sahara desert as a non-PTI, where nobody can survive or live.

Yes. I don't like all those little paths. And I can happily announce that this is Europa Universalis. Africa is there to be colonized and, well, Inner Africa wasn't really colonized that much.

 

[Mad King James]

Yes. I don't like all those little paths. And I can happily announce that this is Europa Universalis. Africa is there to be colonized and, well, Inner Africa wasn't really colonized that much.

How boring. I guess all those gameplay opportunities are way too interesting and fun for your tender sensibilities.

 

[unmerged(51378)]

How boring. I guess all those gameplay opportunities are way too interesting and fun for your tender sensibilities.

I don't find those provinces fun at all. I'd much more understood if one would use it to take away PTI in Asia. And the worst thing: You must then waste tags on totally irrelevant countries such Rwanda and Kanem-Bornu.

 

[Garbon]

I have this general feeling then...that the AGCEEP might not be the mod for you. Nor MyMAP

 

[unmerged(51378)]

I have this general feeling then...that the AGCEEP might not be the mod for you. Nor MyMAP

It isn't really. I think that achieving historical accuracy is all okay and fine, but I think it has gone a little too far. It is the best mod, due to the much work on it, but I'd personally prefered more flavor.

 

[Garbon]

And I can happily announce that this is Europa Universalis. Africa is there to be colonized and, well, Inner Africa wasn't really colonized that much.

And you'd prefer this, which I can happily state that this will never be a true statement for this mod.

 

[unmerged(51378)]

And you'd prefer this, which I can happily state that this will never be a true statement for this mod.

It's a true statement nevertheless. I might understand when EUIII comes out but...

 

[Garbon]

No. Africa is not there to be colonized in the AGCEEP. In fact, as this mod has progressed, there has been less and less space for Euros to colonize. Oddly enough, it just wasn't historically accurate.

 

[Prince Ares]

I have this general feeling then...that the AGCEEP might not be the mod for you. Nor MyMAP

A problem with AGCEEP is that it is a hyper-historical mood who mostly cares about historical accuraty, and not about gameplay.The Mamlukes where orginaly Shiite, but AGCEEP has changed them to Sunni which is historical, but it destroyes the gameplay because it makes the Mamlukes more stabile.
And even if Fantasy events exists, the Eastern Roman empire is generaly doomed to be destroyed by the Turks and England is most often failing in the Hundred years war. That is bad, since EU II is about Creating history and not follow the old line who everybody knows about.

 

[unmerged(51378)]

A problem with AGCEEP is that it is a hyper-historical mood who mostly cares about historical accuraty, and not about gameplay.The Mamlukes where orginaly Shiite, but AGCEEP has changed them to Sunni which is historical, but it destroyes the gameplay because it makes the Mamlukes more stabile.
And even if Fantasy events exists, the Eastern Roman empire is generaly doomed to be destroyed by the Turks and England is most often failing in the Hundred years war. That is bad, since EU II is about Creating history and not follow the old line who everybody knows about.

Exactly. But I don't agree with Mameluks; That's to stretch it a bit far. The same effect can be made with stab hit and revolt risk events.

 

[doktarr]

In fact, as this mod has progressed, there has been less and less space for Euros to colonize.

I'd bet you a shiny nickel that the first release on the new map will have more uncolonized provinces than vanilla.

 

[Garbon]

A problem with AGCEEP is that it is a hyper-historical mood who mostly cares about historical accuraty, and not about gameplay.The Mamlukes where orginaly Shiite, but AGCEEP has changed them to Sunni which is historical, but it destroyes the gameplay because it makes the Mamlukes more stabile.

Have you actually played this mod? Our Mamlukes are unfortunately way more unstable than they should be.

And even if Fantasy events exists, the Eastern Roman empire is generaly doomed to be destroyed by the Turks and England is most often failing in the Hundred years war. That is bad, since EU II is about Creating history and not follow the old line who everybody knows about.

Yea this mod is not for you. Frankly, I'm rather glad that eu3 is starting in is starting in 1453, as it ridiculous that an "empire" in the state that the Byzantines were in could have a resurgance.

 

[Garbon]

I'd bet you a shiny nickel that the first release on the new map will have more uncolonized provinces than vanilla.

Have you seen the map lately?

 

[Registered]

Have you seen the map lately?

Where can we see it? The link in MKJs sig only points to this thread.

 

[unmerged(17856)]

...and England is most often failing in the Hundred years war. That is bad, since EU II is about Creating history and not follow the old line who everybody knows about.

Uhhh, so are you arguing that we should develop a game where we help the AI do wild, fantastic, and unpredicitable things? You do know that you can conquer FRA if you play as ENG don't you?

 

[Prince Ares]

Uhhh, so are you arguing that we should develop a game where we help the AI do wild, fantastic, and unpredicitable things? You do know that you can conquer FRA if you play as ENG don't you?

I meant AI England. The computer always loose against the player no matter the odds.

 

[rybka]

I have 2 questions:
1. Will the map be released with some early modification of all existing events in agceep?
2. technical question, do you plan to have more siliesian provinces as on kasperus map or in latest mymap?

If answer is yes for both questions i could provide events (before you release map) for silesian duchies (i wrote some for mymap), becouse many unhistorical things happen with no events for duchies. for example hussite events screws vassalisations of duchies as well as when austria annexes bohemia, duchies do not become austria's vassals. If you prefer you can send me a pm.