Mobilization gives negative manpower

[unmerged(19926)]

Playing the grand campaign with 1.03 Prussia.
Have 31 divs in mob. pool.

Then I mobilze, and I suddenly have something like -64 in manpower.

I play on a Duron 900Mhz, win98SE, 256mb ram.

(also the games amost stops when there is a lot off war, and it also crashes sometimes)

 

[Kedryn]

This is because that manpower is taken to staff those divisions you just mobilised. Try increasing your defense and/or army budget or creating more soldiers.

 

[unmerged(19926)]

This is because that manpower is taken to staff those divisions you just mobilised. Try increasing your defense and/or army budget or creating more soldiers.

It still doesnt make sense.

 

[tyrel68]

It still doesnt make sense.

Well, to the best of my knowledge this is how I understand it:

1) You mobilize your troops
2) 100% Def spending = massive increase in manpower pool
3) 0% Def Spending = massive decrease in pool
4) if your def spending doesn't handle the increase in manpower than the pool itself has to handle it, causing a massive drop

 

[TomTheHand]

I think 76mm understands what happened in the game. What I think he's saying (and I agree) is that the negative manpower concept doesn't make sense.

 

[Derek Pullem]

I think 76mm understands what happened in the game. What I think he's saying (and I agree) is that the negative manpower concept doesn't make sense.

Well its not perfect. Trouble is you would have to start disbanding divisions or reducing no of reserves if it was removed.

The reason why manpower can increase when troops are mobilised is that the computer allocates certain POPs to be soldier pops after a mobilisation. The number of reserves is fixed as is the manpower required for them. But the manpower generated by conversion of the nominated POPs varies considerably depending on the military spending slider. A low setting and the POPs converted don't generate enough manpower. A high setting and they do.

To correct this would mean either the computer would have to convert more POPs (potentially wrecking your economy) or would mobilise fewer divisions. The second option is the most realistic (maybe zero or 1 man strength divisions created awaiting reinforcements) but thats a big change to the game and might not happen.

 

[Theodotus1]

Well, to the best of my knowledge this is how I understand it:

1) You mobilize your troops
2) 100% Def spending = massive increase in manpower pool
3) 0% Def Spending = massive decrease in pool
4) if your def spending doesn't handle the increase in manpower than the pool itself has to handle it, causing a massive drop

And what negative manpower means in practice is divisions that can't be reinforced. I personally don't find the situation to be ahistorical. It simulates a circumstance in which a country can field manpower in an emergency, but doesn't possess the underlying societal structure needed to keep an ongoing war effort running. History contains various episodes of such national circumstances in one place or another.

 

[unmerged(19926)]

And what negative manpower means in practice is divisions that can't be reinforced. I personally don't find the situation to be ahistorical. It simulates a circumstance in which a country can field manpower in an emergency, but doesn't possess the underlying societal structure needed to keep an ongoing war effort running. History contains various episodes of such national circumstances in one place or another.

I got -500 with my recent game as Prussia.

Strange, couse I didnt mobilze more than 21.. nor did I have more than 20 or so fielded. HELLO! (I had 20 before mobilization, then I had 80, and when I had used those 80 up, I suddenly got those -500)

Bismarck was a lucky man living in rl