[MOD] Princes of Darkness

[karde]

As said, it already gives you a separate clan. Clan is your trait, not your dynasty. And they get the Giovanni trait instead of the Cappadocian one during that event.

Most clans are indeed also dynasties, but that's not always the case. Anyway, the Giovanni don't break up from their Cappadocian roots (lineage) completely during this event, as V5 Clan Hecata shows so that's intended.

 

[SaxonCyne]

How does this mod go about giving special disciplines to characters, is it based on the Clan trait?

id like to give Mithras Quietus but it seems the trait is still just bloodsorcery in the txt files.

thank you

 

[karde]

Many clan specific or otherwise niche disciplines aren't yet fully fledged out as lifestyles in the mod. Instead, while waiting for that to happen, they are a special localization based on the clan trait. As such, the blood sorcery discipline will be renamed as Valeren for Salubri, or Quietus for Assamites, but will still be functionally the same lifestyle.

The list of actually implemented disciplines is available on the wiki : https://github.com/PrincesOfDarknessMod/POD-for-CK3-Wiki/wiki/Disciplines

 

[DahndI]

A question/suggestion: Will you add an option to the great persons event that allows you to order/coerce your childer to embrace them instead? Sort of how Haqim supposedly ordered Ur-Shulgi to embrace Al-Ashrad? Of course with the chance that they might refuse? Might make for some nice drama and it will allow the Tremere to retain the structure of a pyramid.

 

[karde]

Not yet. Though I updated the GP script for the next update with several changes.
1/ If you aren't eligible for a GP, it's now a higher ranked vampire that will get it and not a random one, making it more meaningful.
2/ If you refuse the GP while you are eligible, the GP instantly goes to a powerful neighbor and doesn't just linger in the region.
3/ If you accept a GP, a rival neighbor might try to steal it from you.

So not exactly what you asked, but the GP script has been modernized and will be easier to modify in the future for improvements like your suggestion.

 

[DahndI]

If you aren't eligible

Are there some GPs like that, with special requirements like title rank? I thought you got the event no matter what as long as you are in the correct region.

 

[karde]

Indeed, what I meant by that is "if you aren't in the correct region."

Right now, what happens if there are no players in the correct region is that a random vamp will get the GP as a childe. This often results in the GP being grabbed by an irrelevant vampire, like a baron or a count. After the rework, the GP will be much much more likely to be grabbed by an emperor or king level AI character, meaning those will have access to powerful childer, and that those GPs might potentially inherit and become important players on their own.

 

[SaxonCyne]

Sorry if I’m being blind;

I was just wondering if you have any documents that show the changes from v5 to v20da rules, I can’t seem to see the difference in game.

Thank you

 

[karde]

I think it's written in the game rule itself (though I might remember it wrong for the steam build).
Basically, cosmetic changes, some icons are different, some names as well. Nothing impacting gameplay.

 

[SaxonCyne]

I think it's written in the game rule itself (though I might remember it wrong for the steam build).
Basically, cosmetic changes, some icons are different, some names as well. Nothing impacting gameplay.

Yeah the rule setting does have a description I was just unsure if it had any gameplay impact, thank you

 

[DahndI]

For some odd reason the imprisonment duel/fight doesn't trigger when you are the one being imprisoned. Intentional?

 

[SaxonCyne]

Hey how do I stop all viamithras people wearing the hat? I’ve tried deleting the scripted portrait modifer, the headgear file etc but nothing seems to work.

Thank you

 

[karde]

For some odd reason the imprisonment duel/fight doesn't trigger when you are the one being imprisoned. Intentional?

Mostly yes, the current imprisonment "mechanic" is a bandaid to make the very powerful "imprison a powerful old guy / eat him without risks" less optimal.

One of our devs has expressed interest in revisiting it and adding to it, so making the player more involved to it will wait for that.

 

[flintsparc]

Hey how do I stop all viamithras people wearing the hat? I’ve tried deleting the scripted portrait modifer, the headgear file etc but nothing seems to work.

Thank you

You have no appreciation for the importance of the Phrygian Cap in liberty loving people from Greece to France.
That said, you can change it in princesofdarkness\gfx\portraits\portrait_modifiers\POD_headgear.txt

## Mithrasist ##

	mithrasist = {
		dna_modifiers = {
			accessory = {
				mode = add
				gene = headgear
				template = byzantine_common
				#value = 1.0
				value = 0 # For the randomness to work correctly
			}
		}	
		weight = {
			base = 0
			modifier = {
				add = 25
				portrait_mithrasist_trigger = yes
				POD_no_hat_trigger = no
				is_female = no
			}
			modifier = {
				add = 2000
				this = character:505071
			}
		}		
		
	}

Or you can change it in the scripted trigger at 00_POD_clothing_visual_effect_triggers.txt

portrait_mithrasist_trigger = {
	AND = {
		OR = {
			faith = faith:viamithras
			has_character_flag = POD_portrait_mithrasist_flag
		}
		NOT = { has_trait = disfigured }
	}
}

 

[SaxonCyne]

You have no appreciation for the importance of the Phrygian Cap in liberty loving people from Greece to France.
That said, you can change it in princesofdarkness\gfx\portraits\portrait_modifiers\POD_headgear.txt

## Mithrasist ##

	mithrasist = {
		dna_modifiers = {
			accessory = {
				mode = add
				gene = headgear
				template = byzantine_common
				#value = 1.0
				value = 0 # For the randomness to work correctly
			}
		}	
		weight = {
			base = 0
			modifier = {
				add = 25
				portrait_mithrasist_trigger = yes
				POD_no_hat_trigger = no
				is_female = no
			}
			modifier = {
				add = 2000
				this = character:505071
			}
		}		
		
	}

Or you can change it in the scripted trigger at 00_POD_clothing_visual_effect_triggers.txt

portrait_mithrasist_trigger = {
	AND = {
		OR = {
			faith = faith:viamithras
			has_character_flag = POD_portrait_mithrasist_flag
		}
		NOT = { has_trait = disfigured }
	}
}

Thank you.

I just want the hat to represent what it is in the ritual used by Camden as opposed to it’s more real life interpretation with the mod. I want it to be something that makes Mithras stand out.

Edit; I modify the script and even outright delete it but viamithras converts and starters still wear the hat

 

[flintsparc]

Thank you.

I just want the hat to represent what it is in the ritual used by Camden as opposed to it’s more real life interpretation with the mod. I want it to be something that makes Mithras stand out.

Edit; I modify the script and even outright delete it but viamithras converts and starters still wear the hat

If you are using POD Toreador Poseur Closet, you need to update that mod since it is last in load order.

 

[SaxonCyne]

Does Catubodua (True Brujah BL) not have the ability to embrace due to her lore or is something broken in my game?

Thank you.

 

[DahndI]

Does Catubodua (True Brujah BL) not have the ability to embrace due to her lore or is something broken in my game?

Thank you.

She has indeed sworn never to embrace another.

 

[Orinsul]

What if Losombra had to use the torture prisoners interaction enough times to inflict some kind of "Broken" modifier which a tough health malus on them, and then the ones who survived could be embraced? For the lore test if they're strong enough to be worthy survival of the fittest way they embrace?

 

[SaxonCyne]

What if Losombra had to use the torture prisoners interaction enough times to inflict some kind of "Broken" modifier which a tough health malus on them, and then the ones who survived could be embraced? For the lore test if they're strong enough to be worthy survival of the fittest way they embrace?

I like it, and it has a basis in the main game with the torturer event chain which makes someone your mindless thrall if you succeed to break them after numerous attempts.