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It should be possible since the AI should be bound by the same restrictions under Full Council Authority already. However, it might be side-effecty since the AI won't be able to appoint its powerful vassals (pissing them off) if they are ineligible the moment it goes "I need a <voter>!".
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Right, the cons probably outweight the pros. I wish I could rid the council of a malcontent or two but I guess there's only so much I can do to prevent the AI from harming itself.
Is it possible to check if a character has Iqta government? Are there non Muslim religions where a landed court chaplain isn't theocratic (would reformed temporal pagan would allow it maybe)?
"government = muslim_government" would cover characters that currently have the government, but in some cases you might want to check eligibility as well (e.g. a Muslim MR does not pass the check).
Nomad Clan vassals are also eligible. Temporal pagans are not eligible by default.
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Short answer: yes, nomad clan heads can be court chaplain as long as they have the same religion as their liege.
Long answer:
First, you need to locate the specification of the court chaplain job (.../common/job_titles/00_job_titles.txt). Here's the base game version:
Code:
job_spiritual = {
...
allow = {
can_be_spiritual_trigger = yes
}
Code:
can_be_spiritual_trigger = {
independent = no
prisoner = no
NOT = { trait = incapable }
NOT = { trait = in_hiding }
NOT = { has_character_modifier = resigned_in_anger }
NOT = {
liege = {
has_opinion_modifier = {
who = ROOT
modifier = opinion_resigned_from_council
}
}
}
liege = {
religion = ROOT
}
OR = {
AND = {
is_adult = yes
OR = {
is_female = no
religion_allows_female_temple_holders = yes
has_religion_feature = religion_matriarchal
}
OR = {
is_female = yes
religion_allows_male_temple_holders = yes
has_religion_feature = religion_patriarchal
}
OR = {
NOT = { religion = hindu }
trait = brahmin
is_ascetic_trigger = yes
}
}
has_character_flag = special_spiritual
}
OR = {
is_theocracy = yes
AND = {
liege = { is_tribal = yes }
is_ruler = no
}
liege = { religion_group = muslim }
AND = {
clan = yes
liege = {
is_nomadic = yes
}
}
AND = {
has_autocephaly = no
is_ruler = no
}
AND = {
has_autocephaly = yes
is_ruler = no
NOT = {
any_vassal = { is_theocracy = yes }
}
}
}
OR = {
NOT = { religion_group = muslim }
NOT = { liege = { religion_group = muslim } }
trait = detached_priest
trait = martial_cleric
trait = scholarly_theologian
trait = mastermind_theologian
has_character_flag = special_spiritual
}
}
Code:
OR = {
is_theocracy = yes
AND = {
liege = { is_tribal = yes }
is_ruler = no
}
liege = { religion_group = muslim }
AND = {
clan = yes
liege = {
is_nomadic = yes
}
}
AND = {
has_autocephaly = no
is_ruler = no
}
AND = {
has_autocephaly = yes
is_ruler = no
NOT = {
any_vassal = { is_theocracy = yes }
}
}
}- if the potential court chaplain's liege is a muslim (ie. that the cc is a muslim, since he must be of the same religion as his liege), or
- if he is head of a nomad clan in a nomad empire (note that it's technically possible, but very rare without player involvement, to have nomad clan heads in non-nomadic empires).
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I redid my councillor script from scratch... It mostly works, outside of regencies. In my test it fires everyone, except the regent and the chaplain, which is intended. What is not intended is that it appoints nobody by the end of the script. So that should be the 3rd event (1009) of the chain that is faulty.
In short, I use a decision to send an event to my character:
Then it filters out the tier of the ruler and possible regencies to send the correct event, duke with regents shouldn't run the script. Here the event that I intend to fire is CR.1008:
Event 1008 then remove every councilor's job, except for the chaplain and the regent (which are meant to keep whatever job they have), and assign everyone else the title title_councilmember_dummy, whose main purpose is to give everyone the is_voter tag while (most) jobs have no councillor so I can easily appoint characters.
Then it moves on to event 1009.
Up to that point, the script seem to be working as intended.
Event 1009 picks one job, assign a character with good attributes among the title_councilmember_dummy holders to the job and proceeds like that one job at a time until the entire council is full again. Every time there's an extra step (the "if") to check that the regent does not hold the job title has it seems to mess the code, and also to keep the AI from bypassing the rules of regency (you can't change the regent's job).
In short, I use a decision to send an event to my character:
Code:
decisions = {
TEST_councilor_script = {
only_playable = yes
is_high_prio = yes
ai_check_interval = 12
potential = {
is_ruler = yes
ai = no
}
allow = {
always = yes
}
effect = {
ROOT = {
hidden_tooltip = {
character_event = { id = CR.1000 }
}
}
}
ai_will_do = {
factor = 0
}
}
}Then it filters out the tier of the ruler and possible regencies to send the correct event, duke with regents shouldn't run the script. Here the event that I intend to fire is CR.1008:
Code:
#Is there a regent? What is the ruler's tier?
character_event = {
id = CR.1000
hide_window = yes
is_triggered_only = yes
immediate = {
if = { #king and emperor no regency script
limit = {
has_regent = no
higher_real_tier_than = DUKE
}
character_event = { id = CR.1001 }
}
if = { #king and emperor regency script
limit = {
has_regent = yes
higher_real_tier_than = DUKE
}
character_event = { id = CR.1008 }
}
if = { #count and duke no regency script
limit = {
has_regent = no
lower_real_tier_than = KING
}
character_event = { id = CR.1004 }
}
}
}Event 1008 then remove every councilor's job, except for the chaplain and the regent (which are meant to keep whatever job they have), and assign everyone else the title title_councilmember_dummy, whose main purpose is to give everyone the is_voter tag while (most) jobs have no councillor so I can easily appoint characters.
Then it moves on to event 1009.
Code:
#Flagging every potential councillor king regency edition
character_event = {
id = CR.1008
hide_window = yes
is_triggered_only = yes
immediate = {
set_character_flag = swapping_councillors
any_voter = {
limit = {
has_minor_title = title_councilmember_king
NOT = {
has_minor_title = title_regent
}
}
remove_title = title_councilmember_king
give_minor_title = title_councilmember_dummy
}
any_voter = {
limit = {
has_minor_title = title_councilmember_emperor
NOT = {
has_minor_title = title_regent
}
}
remove_title = title_councilmember_emperor
give_minor_title = title_councilmember_dummy
}
job_chancellor = {
if = {
limit = {
NOT = {
has_minor_title = title_regent
}
}
remove_title = job_chancellor
give_minor_title = title_councilmember_dummy
}
}
job_marshal = {
if = {
limit = {
NOT = {
has_minor_title = title_regent
}
}
remove_title = job_marshal
give_minor_title = title_councilmember_dummy
}
}
job_treasurer = {
if = {
limit = {
NOT = {
has_minor_title = title_regent
}
}
remove_title = job_treasurer
give_minor_title = title_councilmember_dummy
}
}
job_spymaster = {
if = {
limit = {
NOT = {
has_minor_title = title_regent
}
}
remove_title = job_spymaster
give_minor_title = title_councilmember_dummy
}
}
character_event = { id = CR.1009 }
}
}Up to that point, the script seem to be working as intended.
Event 1009 picks one job, assign a character with good attributes among the title_councilmember_dummy holders to the job and proceeds like that one job at a time until the entire council is full again. Every time there's an extra step (the "if") to check that the regent does not hold the job title has it seems to mess the code, and also to keep the AI from bypassing the rules of regency (you can't change the regent's job).
Code:
#Councillor script regency default edition
character_event = {
id = CR.1009
hide_window = yes
is_triggered_only = yes
immediate = {
if = {
limit = {
job_spymaster = {
NOT = {
has_minor_title = title_regent
}
}
}
random_voter = {
limit = {
can_be_spymaster_trigger = yes
NOT = {
has_job_title = job_spiritual
has_minor_title = title_regent
}
}
preferred_limit = {
intrigue > 19
opinion = {
who = ROOT
value > 24
}
}
preferred_limit = {
intrigue > 14
opinion = {
who = ROOT
value > 24
}
}
preferred_limit = {
intrigue > 19
opinion = {
who = ROOT
value > 0
}
}
preferred_limit = {
intrigue > 14
opinion = {
who = ROOT
value > 0
}
}
preferred_limit = {
intrigue > 9
opinion = {
who = ROOT
value > 0
}
}
preferred_limit = {
ai_honor > -1
opinion = {
who = ROOT
value > 0
}
}
preferred_limit = {
ai_honor > -1
opinion = {
who = ROOT
value > -20
}
}
remove_title = title_councilmember_dummy
give_job_title = job_spymaster
}
}
if = {
limit = {
job_chancellor = {
NOT = {
has_minor_title = title_regent
}
}
}
random_voter = { #chancellor
limit = {
can_be_chancellor_trigger = yes
NOR = {
has_job_title = job_spymaster
has_job_title = job_spiritual
has_minor_title = title_regent
}
}
preferred_limit = {
diplomacy > 21
}
preferred_limit = {
diplomacy > 18
}
preferred_limit = {
diplomacy > 15
}
preferred_limit = {
diplomacy > 11
stewardship < 12
martial < 12
}
preferred_limit = {
diplomacy > 5
stewardship < 12
martial < 12
}
preferred_limit = {
diplomacy > 8
}
remove_title = title_councilmember_dummy
give_job_title = job_chancellor
}
}
if = {
limit = {
job_treasurer = {
NOT = {
has_minor_title = title_regent
}
}
}
random_voter = { #treasurer
limit = {
can_be_treasurer_trigger = yes
has_minor_title = title_councilmember_dummy
}
preferred_limit = {
stewardship > 19
martial < 12
}
preferred_limit = {
stewardship > 16
martial < 12
}
preferred_limit = {
stewardship > 12
martial < 12
}
preferred_limit = {
stewardship > 16
}
preferred_limit = {
stewardship > 5
martial < 12
}
preferred_limit = {
martial < 12
}
remove_title = title_councilmember_dummy
give_job_title = job_treasurer
}
}
if = {
limit = {
job_marshal = {
NOT = {
has_minor_title = title_regent
}
}
}
random_voter = { #marshal
limit = {
can_be_marshal_trigger = yes
has_minor_title = title_councilmember_dummy
}
preferred_limit = {
martial > 21
}
preferred_limit = {
martial > 17
}
preferred_limit = {
martial > 13
}
preferred_limit = {
martial > 10
}
preferred_limit = {
martial > 7
}
preferred_limit = {
martial > 4
}
remove_title = title_councilmember_dummy
give_job_title = job_marshal
}
}
random_voter = { #councilmember_king no check so that characters in hiding keep their council seat
limit = {
has_minor_title = title_councilmember_dummy
}
remove_title = title_councilmember_dummy
give_minor_title = title_councilmember_king
}
random_voter = { #councilmember_emperor no check so that characters in hiding keep their council seat
limit = {
has_minor_title = title_councilmember_dummy
}
remove_title = title_councilmember_dummy
give_minor_title = title_councilmember_emperor
}
any_voter = {
limit = {
has_minor_title = title_councilmember_dummy
}
remove_title = title_councilmember_dummy
}
clr_character_flag = swapping_councillors
}
}
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That's what I get when running my script. The regent is the spymaster.
This is what the working non regency version of the script does:
This is what the working non regency version of the script does:
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I suggest placing various
log = "Script got to this point" in your events, to verify that script is executed as you think it should be. Very useful to find out where things go wrong. Be sure to have logging enabled first.- 1
At a glance, your problem might be that that you're looking for
random_voter. If they're not on the council, then they're not a voter, and since you just fired (mostly) everyone, you have no random voters available other than the ones that are still currently on the council.- 1
Everyone should still be a voter due to having title_councilmember_dummy minor title and I know the title works as the same script without the regent checks works fine.
Do they get a "Recently fired"/"Fired me" opinion partway through the process that makes them ineligible to be appointed to a(nother) council title?
If minor titles can be voters (other than regent), that's news to me.
They can, and vanilla uses that for the two additional councillors added at king and emperor tier.
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Thanks for the suggestions. It was a dumb issue actually.
job_chancellor should have been inside the if and limit, like this:
Code:
job_chancellor = {
if = {
limit = {
NOT = {
has_minor_title = title_regent
}
}
remove_title = job_chancellor
give_minor_title = title_councilmember_dummy
}
}job_chancellor should have been inside the if and limit, like this:
Code:
if = {
limit = {
job_chancellor = {
NOT = {
has_minor_title = title_regent
}
}
job_chancellor = {
remove_title = job_chancellor
give_minor_title = title_councilmember_dummy
}
}
}I don't see why that would make a difference, but CK2's code can be unpredictably wonky sometimes.
Do I add pre-triggers to triggers = { } or do they have their own bracketty thingy?
No, they do not go inside the
trigger = {} block, but nor do they have their own block. The only brackets they're within are the overall ones for the event.I always put my pre-triggers right before the trigger block myself.
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How would you go to make character flags visible in game (for testing purposes)?
Using the "charinfo" command in the console (if you don't mind other info being visible, e.g. real_father), or updating the CHARACTER_TOOLTIP UI string to add some custom_loc only visible if someone has the flag (if you don't want the full charinfo; this is more work).
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