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Lord Ederon said:
Add "I'll obey my alliance overlords" and you can take over Spain, Romania or Flanders. :p

You're right, that does sound unappealing... and China would be a major player.. so I guess I could give her a try, plenty of action, plenty of scope for advancement... Plenty of chance to uh.. annex the Soviet Union :rolleyes: ;)
 
Evans said:
Ok, so I'm sitting in the HoI2 channel on valkyrie net at 17:00 GMT...

It is 17:00 GMT now and rereading your post I think you got caught by the difference between Summer Time and GMT. The difference is +1 hour now. If you're in UK time zone you're in GMT+1 at the moment.
 
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Herodotos said:
It is 17:00 GMT now and rereading your post I think you got caught by the difference between Summer Time and GMT. The difference is 2 hours now.
So when it is 2 hours, isn't 17:00 GMT right time? 19 CEST -2 hours is 17, isn't it? :confused:
 
Lord Ederon said:
So when it is 2 hours, isn't 17:00 GMT right time? 19 CEST -2 hours is 17, isn't it? :confused:

It is, but he posted at 18:08 CEST (16:08 GMT) and probably had it mixed up in his head.

I'm definately in favour of abolishing Summer Time.
 
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Posted at 08, but i'd been on for about 10 minutes :) Not to worry... I think this summer time thing did have me confused... What time over here in England do you meet if not 17:00? :confused:

Or is it that I checked GMT, but I'm currently in GMT Summer Time (+1) so I should have been on at 18:00 by my clock? I think that's it right?
 
Evans said:
Posted at 08, but i'd been on for about 10 minutes :) Not to worry... I think this summer time thing did have me confused... What time over here in England do you meet if not 17:00? :confused:

Or is it that I checked GMT, but I'm currently in GMT Summer Time (+1) so I should have been on at 18:00 by my clock? I think that's it right?

It's a pity you had to miss the session in this way, but you can join us next week. Your assumption in the second paragraph is correct. We meet at 18:00 UK time. UK is now GMT+1.
 
Tonight we were:

Wishing Well - USA
Andrew - UK
Dan - Nat. China
Herodotos - Germany
Ederon - Italy

We saw many fight all over the World (well, world on the frontiers of Third Reich and New Roman Empire). Allied superiority resulting from raw manpower on the land and material superiority in the air has driven todays session. Sea is also domain of Allies, which allows them to roam just everywhere they want.

Major event of this session was Allies operation of unknown name, when combined UK/US attack from the land, sea and the air brought them liberation of British Isles. German garrison of Northern England was forced to retreat or surrender. It was sad day for Axis high command.

Situation in the Middle East is stuck on the good defensive positions Axis prepared there. Van and Suez are difficult to capture.

Africa has been witness of overwhelming Chinese presence and US paradrops. Situation is going to be even more difficult as US are encouraged by success in the UK.

Situation is changing on the Iberian peninsula where the same troops which overrun Germans in the UK are doing the same to Spaniards. US attacked Seville from Gibraltar and taken control of it. Germany has its troops there though, so it will be bloody fight yet. It was proven when further US attack was stopped in Huelva.
 
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Lord Ederon said:
Major event of this session was Allies operation of unknown name, when combined UK/US attack from the land, sea and the air brought them liberation of British Isles.
You might call it Operation Overdue. The forces which conducted this operation had been in the UK at least a year but were nervous about taking on the Germans because we couldn't easily see their strength and didn't want to risk a debacle as a Germany counter-attack and/or second invasion was expected. With this long and careful preparation the operation went quite smoothly and, with hindsight, it's the Germans that should have been nervous and planning to evacuate sooner. As it was, I'm curious why the German fleet didn't more seriously contest the North Sea and try to relieve Scotland. Maybe they were intimidated by all the RAF aircraft....?

Andrew
 
Colonel Warden said:
You might call it Operation Overdue. The forces which conducted this operation had been in the UK at least a year but were nervous about taking on the Germans because we couldn't easily see their strength and didn't want to risk a debacle as a Germany counter-attack and/or second invasion was expected. With this long and careful preparation the operation went quite smoothly and, with hindsight, it's the Germans that should have been nervous and planning to evacuate sooner. As it was, I'm curious why the German fleet didn't more seriously contest the North Sea and try to relieve Scotland. Maybe they were intimidated by all the RAF aircraft....?

Andrew

I was anticipating an Allied attack for at least 6 months. To be honest I was surprised it took that long. I expected to lose the north of England, but at the same time I did expect to be able to make a stand at Glasgow or Inverness at worst, from where I could either evacuate most of my forces or possibly stay in order to keep on tying down UK. That last reason is exactly why I didn't evacuate at least 6 months earlier. After my failed attack on Sheffield I was aware the situation was not very bright for me and I would have withdrawn in most other similar military situations. Having a gun pointing at the chest of the UK and simply occupying quite some IC were reasons to stay. I did, however, at that point evacuate some divisions. Why I didn't try to relieve Scotland? The answer is that I tried to. When you launched operation Overdue, my whole fleet came to the rescue, but unfortunately in the naval battles on the way there I lost 12 out of 21 TP's to a fleet of which I don't remember the nationality. With the situation in Scotland becoming hopeless quickly I only had time to do one run. The remaining 9 TP's managed to get out 9 divisions, among them all my Armored ones, present there.

Before operation Overdue Andrew said he had the feeling the Allies just had the edge. The Axis are on the back foot now, but we'll see what happens tonight.
 
Last session

Last session we were:

Wishing Well - USA
Andrew - UK
Herodotos - Germany
Ederon - Italy
Eric - Nat. China (not whole session though)

During this session we reached April '45.

This was more static session, but some signs of the future development were outlined. Spain was stabilized so far, but Allies have now more troops for offensive while they freed Gibraltar from threat of direct attack. Allied bombers are already operating in the Mediterranean.

US para-operation was more of disaster for Allies, but it is only humble plaster on the wounds of Axis. Allied air superiority is lowering morale of even war-hardened veterans fighting in Africa.

Just before the end of the session, Allies launched their offensive on African Southern Front. Outnumbered 4 or 5 to 1, Italian troops had to leave their positions.

Each battle is painful for both sides, since manpower is low and cannot cover the needs of fighting countries. Only exception may be Nat.China. Her soldiers are overcoming Axis in the Middle East and Africa, while new are still coming.
 
I'm going to take holiday next week (since next Friday) and I won't be able to play for next two weeks. Maybe even month, but that's not sure. So this Monday is my last game for some time. If you know anybody willing to play Italy and suitable for you, invite him as you wish. Or maybe Mr.S? (I'm not in contact with him, you may know better how is it with him).
 
Lord Ederon said:
I'm going to take holiday next week (since next Friday) and I won't be able to play for next two weeks. Maybe even month, but that's not sure. So this Monday is my last game for some time. If you know anybody willing to play Italy and suitable for you, invite him as you wish. Or maybe Mr.S? (I'm not in contact with him, you may know better how is it with him).

Remembering earlier statements of Wishing_Well in other games, I think he will also not be able to play during a part of August. Is this true and if so for how long? So if it's reasonably possible it might be a good idea to postpone until both of you are back. Mr. S is an obvious exception, but finding multiple good subs is not easy. I hope Mr. S rejoins us anyway once he is back from his holidays. On top of that this game has developed into something of a classic and I can imagine that the two of you would like to be part of the endgame as well. With the two of you having been very reliable during this game, I think you would deserve it. At least I would like to finish it in the current formation, having come this far with the four of us. I prefer to wait 2-4 weeks and finish it with you onboard, but we can discuss this either in this thread or on Monday night.
 
I'm okay with postponement as I'm with any solution you guys agree upon. So said, I'd like to finish this game with you. Indeed.

What is 100% sure on my side: all be off from 5th to 20th of August
What is not yet clear: my availability by the end of August (I'll inform you ASAP)
 
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This coming monday is the last I'll be able to play until the end of august, since I won't be able to attend any monday session before august 29.
 
With reactions and facts in, the way to go looks straightforward. It looks like there is a realistic chance Ederon will be available on the 29th of August and if I read correctly he'll definately be available on the 5th of September. So depending on his return I think everybody agrees that it's best we'll continue on one of those two dates (of course we'll still play this Monday). A potential problem to this game is the arrival of 1.3, but we'll deal with that when it's close to being released.