Yet one nice poster I found. Originally, it was "Luftsieg uber Polen". Hope my tweak is readable
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Yet one nice poster I found. Originally, it was "Luftsieg uber Polen". Hope my tweak is readable
With the US in a desperate situation I felt it was time to try everything to break through in the main Soviet-German frontline. Even though it was a risky operation with no guarantee of success, the clock was ticking and there was simply not much time left. I consciously weakened my Scandinavian front and chose not to restrengthen the Caucasus where the situation had become worse with the arrival of more Italians and the availability of more manoeuvering space for them after the Axis conquest of Turkey.
The first main attack was into Stryj, which was taken with relative ease. However, Zamosc had to be taken as well to have a first real opening. A smaller attack on Beltsy was tried, but failed. The next step was the second main attack to try and take Zamosc. Unfortunately my Soviet heroes went nowhere. There were simply too many enemy divisions with too much org, not to mention the eternal pounding from the skies. Effectively the Soviet army was stuck now. In an attempt to get something useful out of the offensive a second bigger attack was made on Beltsy to hopefully give some kind of breakthrough to Romania. The battle was actually won, but the Germans counterattacked Stryj and the Red Army went back to where it came from in the beginning of this spring offensive.
In the meantime both the temporary Scandinavian commander and the Italian commander had gone on the offensive. Both had success and the Red Army had to retreat again. The front in the Caucasus has been stabilized more or less for now, but in Finland things got ugly. Seven Soviet divisions were surrounded by fast advancing Scandinavian armor divisions, two were eliminated from the skies as well, and another nine didn't read the traffic signs well and went...well, nobody knows. All in all a very bad session for the SU, but it was a risk that I had to take now, considering the circumstances. I would have been much more patient, had things on other continents been different.
The first main attack was into Stryj, which was taken with relative ease. However, Zamosc had to be taken as well to have a first real opening. A smaller attack on Beltsy was tried, but failed. The next step was the second main attack to try and take Zamosc. Unfortunately my Soviet heroes went nowhere. There were simply too many enemy divisions with too much org, not to mention the eternal pounding from the skies. Effectively the Soviet army was stuck now. In an attempt to get something useful out of the offensive a second bigger attack was made on Beltsy to hopefully give some kind of breakthrough to Romania. The battle was actually won, but the Germans counterattacked Stryj and the Red Army went back to where it came from in the beginning of this spring offensive.
In the meantime both the temporary Scandinavian commander and the Italian commander had gone on the offensive. Both had success and the Red Army had to retreat again. The front in the Caucasus has been stabilized more or less for now, but in Finland things got ugly. Seven Soviet divisions were surrounded by fast advancing Scandinavian armor divisions, two were eliminated from the skies as well, and another nine didn't read the traffic signs well and went...well, nobody knows. All in all a very bad session for the SU, but it was a risk that I had to take now, considering the circumstances. I would have been much more patient, had things on other continents been different.
Mr.G 24 said:Brazanavia and ScandilOn a side note to DF: I apologies for launching a campaign to retake Finland, I tried to incorporate it into the AAR, the whole campaign was a sort of slipperly slope with things becoming to good to pass up and I didn't know if another opportunity would present itself with Hero being grossly outnumbered. I hope I made the right decision. Anyways the road is paved to Moscow unfortunately for you that paved road is filled with Russians. Oh and Vipurri will be a tough nut to crack.
*makes a quick escape*
EXCELLENT AAR m8, loved it! :rofl:
No probs about the attack on Finland, the tanks were being built for either:
a. to stem a possible major Soviet attack (which I felt was long overdue) or;
b. to launch my own attack into Finland if they failed to attack.
So your plans were exactly in line with what I hoped for my tanks and am delighted to hear you succeeded
You probably made a better job of it than I would've done anyway
18th Session - October 23rd, 2006
Who played:
How we played:
Few rehosts, some CTD's. Schuer had problems with routher, so we went with the same line up all night. It is late October '43, which means about three months. Last month was played on very slow though.
18th Session - October 23rd, 2006
Who played:
Code:
Andrew - UK
Ederon - Germany
Flash - Canada
Fox - Scandinavia
Geofactor - US
Herodotos - Soviet Union
Hytzon - Nat. Spain
Mr.G - Japan
Mr.Sljivovic - ItalyHow we played:
Few rehosts, some CTD's. Schuer had problems with routher, so we went with the same line up all night. It is late October '43, which means about three months. Last month was played on very slow though.
Japan... or whats left of her
Having spent his summer in the deceptively cold Scandinavian region, Presidente wanted nothing more than to return home to his warm, tropical Brazil where he would commence in some much needed sun tanning. Unfortunately news had reached the higher ups that the German Emperor of Japan had fell into a comma after an atrocious squash accident and once again Presidente was called upon to control a nation not his own. This had come so common that his citizenship had been lost and he found himself a man without a country.
Upon reaching the United State, that is the United Confederacy States he found himself besieged with tasks. First off he had to find transports and that was a labourous task as Japan her empire so vast, had more navys then one could care for. After about 3 days of situating himself in his empire, Presedente found himself fighting what he though a defunct US army and for such a defunct army, it was certainly a big one. What made the situation worse was that the Yanks were not alone infact far from it, the Canadians were a competent army and probably the worst was the British equation into this theatre.
Having never fought the British, Presidente was certainly taken back to see around 250,0000 of them fully equipped and some even in tanks. For the first time in awhile the Japanese were outnumbered and outgunned. The retreat had begun. Fighting loosing battle after loosing battle did not phase the Presidente however having 16 tactical bombers blowing his men to bits did. Having never finished elementary school it was hard to keep track of how many divisions were destroyed but he was sure it was more then his fingers.
The loss of a good deal of his men had prompted him to find transports and he soon did as they were in Manchuria and nothing goes to Manchuria unless it plans on leaving. So calm and collective, troop movements were stopped until something could be done to the damn fleet of aircraft destorying everything in thier paths. So for every plot of land loss Presedente took pleasure in readying his own aircraft to strike back. Eventually the time came and it was anti climatic, intense battle over the Atlantic and Illinois had resulted in a stalemate with Japan having air superiority for now but without a large amount of bombers to make difference. However for the rest of Presidente's stay and many think for the rest of the war British air supremacy has been destroyed.
In sea Presidente was not at ease, 2 fleets assisting the German invasion of England one of them had met the British battleship fleet and was promptly destoyed, aghast at such a defeat Japans own battleship fleet along with the German fleet hit back destoying more or less the rest of the British fleet. Overall it was eye for an eye but it was probably the worst victoey/defeat for the Japanese navy. All in all presidente was sure Emperor Schuermann would not be to happy with recent losses.
@Schuer - US had made some serious gains this session and honestly I don't think I could of stopped them, although I can't say I played too well, I don't think I could of done much in respects to the gains. Canada fielded more divisions but overall it was the British reinforcements that freed up US troops to push me out of the Buffalo-Windsor line. In the west losses werent so bad, I beat back the US bombers but they should be back and Canada has grown stronger although I have consolidated and gains can be easily made that way and I was on my way to gaining back lands loss. The main thing for me was the god forsaken bombers, they destroyed a lot, 8 Italian divisions were destroyed because the rehost stopped foward movement and they had to start all over. So I gathered up you fighters and got around to ending that threat. All in all the situation is better then one may think especially with some British divisions leaving to defend the homeland. Andrew was on a double edge sword he either helped the US and leave his Isles lightly defended or loose the US and keep his island safe. Ultimately he chose the US, made gains but also lost most of his island to a Sealion. Also a fair deal of troops are on its way and I already replaced the losses with Brazilians and more troops will push the tide in your favor once more.
The naval battles were completely my fault, the lone CV heavy cruiser fleet engaged BBs and the BBs closed range almost immediately combined with poor weather it was heavily against me but I felt I would be fine until the BB fleet engaged which was in an adjacent province. I set them to engage and my tea kettle boiled and I ran off, I must of been gone for 15 seconds but when I came back the fleet was destroyed, I don't know how it went so wrong but it did. Further attacks destroyed the UK navy and I hope you see it as a suitable loss for such a milestone, if not then take into account the amount of Brazilians I gave you before sending me to the guillotine.
Session 18 - Famous ships and statistics
Top 10 Ships with most kills
Top screening vessels
Countries by enemy kills
NOTE: Values of Germany and Italy are abberated. Some vessels currently sailing under the banner of Germany began their service in Italian Navy, where they got most of their current kills. It is hard to track this precisely. Thus record of Germany should be lower while Italian higher. Same applies to UK/France
Value of kills
out of 10
Some observations
- looking at top killers, this game is domain of battleships. They are responsible for little less than one third of all destroyed ships. See table below for more details.
- almost 60 ships were sunk by another ships between session 16 and 18. 25 of them by IJN
- HMS Eagle remains only Allied vessel in top 10, last British carrier
- KMS Bismarck and KMS Tirpitz sunk 61 ships (31.2 of value), 8.5% of all sunk ships (10% of value). Close to what all other ships (except battleships) did combined per class.
Ship class comparisons
- '#' column is number of ships of respective class which sunk other ship(s) in battle
- '/1' column refers to kills/value of kills per ship of that class
Top 10 Ships with most kills
Top screening vessels
Countries by enemy kills
NOTE: Values of Germany and Italy are abberated. Some vessels currently sailing under the banner of Germany began their service in Italian Navy, where they got most of their current kills. It is hard to track this precisely. Thus record of Germany should be lower while Italian higher. Same applies to UK/France
Value of kills
out of 10
Some observations
- looking at top killers, this game is domain of battleships. They are responsible for little less than one third of all destroyed ships. See table below for more details.
- almost 60 ships were sunk by another ships between session 16 and 18. 25 of them by IJN
- HMS Eagle remains only Allied vessel in top 10, last British carrier
- KMS Bismarck and KMS Tirpitz sunk 61 ships (31.2 of value), 8.5% of all sunk ships (10% of value). Close to what all other ships (except battleships) did combined per class.
Ship class comparisons
- '#' column is number of ships of respective class which sunk other ship(s) in battle
- '/1' column refers to kills/value of kills per ship of that class
Awesome statistics, Ederon! Keep it up.
Mr.G, HOW DARE YOU LOSE MY FLEET??!!!!
Just kidding. What were the total losses? What carrier fleet? And how did the british get 20+ divisions up to the northeast of the US? Must have been quite a big gamble... And the second sealion succeded? So there is only a rump British Empire left?
When i took a look at the save, I must honestly say i am surprised how far north i have pushed. In the end of last session, i pushed quite hard, and met little resistance, but when i dug in, i was surprised to see so many divisions there. I was honestly surprised how fiercely the IMHO worthless US midwest was defended. After those pesky Tanks were gone, the Canadians pulled insane div numbers out of some magic hat, dunno how they did that, suddenly they all were there.
I must say, i might have handeld the situation a bit better if i would have been there (I played Japan all the time, go figure ), but i bet you did your best to save our ass. If the British indeed shipped 20+ divisions up there, i can only understand that you lost ground there.
Maps are very appreciated! If, Ederon, you find the time, i'd love to see your awesome maps!
Mr.G, HOW DARE YOU LOSE MY FLEET??!!!!
Just kidding. What were the total losses? What carrier fleet? And how did the british get 20+ divisions up to the northeast of the US? Must have been quite a big gamble... And the second sealion succeded? So there is only a rump British Empire left?
When i took a look at the save, I must honestly say i am surprised how far north i have pushed. In the end of last session, i pushed quite hard, and met little resistance, but when i dug in, i was surprised to see so many divisions there. I was honestly surprised how fiercely the IMHO worthless US midwest was defended. After those pesky Tanks were gone, the Canadians pulled insane div numbers out of some magic hat, dunno how they did that, suddenly they all were there.
I must say, i might have handeld the situation a bit better if i would have been there (I played Japan all the time, go figure
), but i bet you did your best to save our ass. If the British indeed shipped 20+ divisions up there, i can only understand that you lost ground there.Maps are very appreciated! If, Ederon, you find the time, i'd love to see your awesome maps!
Temporary losses in US were a little pay-off for success of 2nd Sealion. I say success, but it not over yet. Just phase one went according to the plan (more or less). UK is poorly defended now and we have total air superiority there (again, traded off for loss of air in US). I think fleet (ships) you lost was 1 CV + some screens. Not sure though.
Gen.Schuermann said:
The 2 fleets in Azores were sent for shorebombardment in aiding the invasion of the UK. Andrew responded with his fleet and caught the 1 CV and several heavy cruisers by suprise and closed in, I figured losses to the cruisers and screens were fine and if the CV took fire I would retreat, I left for a cople of seconds and the whole fleet was gone really quickly. Only reason I didn't pull out was because of the German/Vichy/Spanish transports fleets and I didn't want to jeapordize anything. All in all I'm supirsed I sank 25 ships I though my losses heavier. I suspect the kills were the BB group with the flagship Fuso in corrolation with Ederons fleet that knocked out most, the BB fleet too lost all its screens but I believe all the capital ships are only recieved minor damages.
On a side not, the fleet that was destroyed had the italian light cruiser (Eugene de Savoir) I gave you early on. It survived the initial engagement one of the few and was returning home but was over taken by Andrews DDs. Shame to see it sunk so close to the end.
The British were there when the session started carried by presumably the US TP fleet but this buildup must have been going on for sometime because it looks as if the US doesnt have enough TPs to make it one run. I would love to hear Geo, Flash, or Andrews bit on this.
Midwest wasn't defended in depth and I think I could of made a good push if I had 3 more divisions on that side, and I could of but I did not want to detract the large amount of interceptors preparing to beat the British airforce in the north-east and make the large amount of US bomber/fighters come out to fight. So I let them gain ground in return my troops were dug-in. Any attacks made were to frustrate the Canadians and draw the understrenghted fighters. I think Ederon and I were able to take out fighters in on such lure, I know Ederon did himself take out some.
I must say, i might have handeld the situation a bit better if i would have been there (I played Japan all the time, go figure
No doubt you would of done better but I think you would of been knocked back accordingly I was suprised to see US MP working and a lot troops bounced back. The big thing for me was to wait for sealion which was sucessful with only two 30 division pockets holding out. Once I saw Monty and the gang out in D.C. and UK thinned out of defense, I knew Ederon would finish it off. So if I was going to do anything it was going to be to detract more UK forces to D.C. the main reason why I fought large air battles, more or less in hopes that Andrew would bring more fighters over.
19th Session - October 30th, 2006
Who played:
How we played:
While we were waiting for Andrew, we played Barbarossa battlescenario which ended with host's CTD. It was fun game though, fighting for a life (as I was on SU side). After Andrew's arrival, we played until annexation of UK which occured on 7th November '43 if I'm not mistaken. That means something less than three weeks gameplay.
19th Session - October 30th, 2006
Who played:
Code:
Andrew - UK
Ederon - Germany
Finnish Commie - Canada
Fox - Scandinavia
Geofactor - US
Herodotos - Soviet Union
Hytzon - Nat. Spain
Mr.G - Japan
Mr.Sljivovic - ItalyHow we played:
While we were waiting for Andrew, we played Barbarossa battlescenario which ended with host's CTD. It was fun game though, fighting for a life (as I was on SU side). After Andrew's arrival, we played until annexation of UK which occured on 7th November '43 if I'm not mistaken. That means something less than three weeks gameplay.
Wow, I just now realized there is an update. Great job and keep them comingMr.G 24 said:
With there being so much defeatist talk and having just been eliminated as UK, I analysed the balance of power. Here are some stats:
The SU still has the world's largest army by a considerable margin. And the USA has the largest navy and airforce (if you discount Germany's rockets, which are one-shot weapons). The Axis has a preponderance of strength overall but this is due to its horde of smaller allies - 28 countries in total.
Andrew
Code:
Country Army Navy Air IC Oil MP
SU 424 49 44 298 82 1.57
USA 123 98 110 292 188 1.04
Canada 20 34 11 49 0.23
--- --- --- --- --- ----
UN 567 181 165 639 270 2.84
Germany 250 44 132 343 1.09
Italy 166 30 6 147 0.69
Japan 137 77 50 240 0.65
Spain 56 12 10 100 0.34
Romania 52 2 7 36 42
Guangxi 47 7 28
Scandinavia 39 92 0.45
Hungary 39 6 63
Vichy 34 36 7 36
Bulgaria 32 1 23
Brazil 28 15 46 0.41
Manchukuo 21 2 19
Flanders 21 24
Australia 11 23 6 47
CSA 65 70
Texas 32 354
Venezuela 110
--- --- --- ---- --- ----
Axis 933 239 234 1341 576 3.63Andrew
Nice figures Andrew, though I don't think Venezuela was in Axis. As for German rockets, they were 23 in the end, which makes 109 regular air squadrons (but 4 CAS are Italian exp.) . Just one under RAF-boosted USAF.
Yet VP situation
Yet VP situation
Code:
Alliance VP
Axis 872
Allies 34
Comintern 158
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The_Carbonater said:This is a very well-writtena and nica AAR
Yes it is
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