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Daniel A said:
The question is: do we have some kind of implicit gentleman rule about this. Is it OK to flung yourself on the pause-button when e.g. you get a message in 1780 that your navy is attacked and you believe it is quite superior to yours and that your only chance to have your fleet not exterminated is to
1. Press pause
2. get ridd of the messages
3. retreat
Yes we do. You shouldn't be pausing for somethink like that. Hive sums up a list of reasonable times to pause, I'll also add that pausing at the time someone dow's you for a few secs is also generally considered not a problem. Pausing when one of your armies/navies gets attacked isn't. All imo of course :cool:
 
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And additionally, pausing when not in war should only be done in most dire circumstances, like bad lag. I don't think pausing because of an event or popups during peace is nice to others.

Then again, I don't generally bitch to people about pausing unless it is excessive, but rather tend to show by example of not pausing. :)
 
Joohoo said:
I believe the title is morale. not moral, just my opinion...*runs*

Actually it is "moral" not "morale". The former is ethical moral and refers to what is right or wrong. The latter is "battle" morale and refers to for example staying in line against superior odds etc.
 
Hehe, although Byak outsmarted Johoo I outsmart both of you.

The word used by me was not intended as a noun but as an adjective, "a moral question" as in "a red rose". Then the only possible spelling is without an "e" at the end.

Apparently it is in English quite impossible for the reader to differentiate between the two.

In more developed languages, like Swedish ;) , this is elementary

As an adjective = SWE: "moralisk fråga"; ENG: moral question
As a noun = SWE: "moralfråga"; ENG: moral question

Probably not much difference in substance in this case.

However, a case can be made that when used as an adjective the expression means that the question itself is moral. Imagine someone asking "how often do you x?" (where x is a truly immoral activity). Then someone might object by saying: "it is immoral to even ask me about that". While when it is used as a noun it means that the topic of the question is moral. As in "Was it right or wrong for Cain to slay Abel". If so Byak was right.

But Johoo was wrong in either case. :p

Now we are just waiting for some English/American native to tell us we are all wrong. :D
 
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I'm not an English/American native, but I think "moral question" refers to the question itself being moral, while "question about morality" would be a question which refers to a moral issue.

There is also a third possibility, namely "moralistic question" which immediately gives the question a moral flavour yet I think it's a bit demeaning when put like this.
 
kurtbrian said:
Everyone please watch your language, Slargos and DSYoungEsq take your fight to the pm's or ICQ, MSN or whereever, just don't continue it here.
Um, who is fighting? I am in agreement with Slargos, and I was making a joke with my last post, so I am somewhat mystified at this post. :wacko:


And what happened to my quite succint subsequent post which politely restated my position on pauses?
 
Quite thoroughly off topic, but solely at the invitation of Daniel A( :D ), we present some English lessons:

1. Moral - n. the moral significance or practical lesson (as of a story) Example: "The moral of the story is that you should not attack anyone named King John unless you want to fight a very long war."

2. Morals - n. pl. moral practices or teachings : modes of conduct
Example: "My morals preclude me from pausing during a war."

3. Moral - adj. of or relating to principles of right and wrong in behavior Example: He is a moral player whose moral judgment is impeccable.

4. Morale - n. the mental and emotional condition (as of enthusiasm, confidence, or loyalty) of an individual or group with regard to the function or tasks at hand Example: His morale is low after he lost five provinces in one war.

Now, interestingly, morale and moral both derive from the same French word, moral, which, if I understand and remember correctly, can be an adjective with meaning similar to the English adjectival form, can be a masculine noun with a meaning similar to meaning 4 above, and can be a feminine noun (morale) with a meaning similar to that English uses in 1 and 2 above. The French version derives from mos, Latin for "custom", through the adjectival form moralis.

Interestingly, Merriam-Webster OnLine, from which the above definitions are excerpted, offers as a meaning for morale a meaning synonymous with 1 above, and says it derives directly from the feminine form of the French word. However, my three printed dictionaries, including my quite massive old one from my college days, do not offer that as a possible use of morale in English, and I certainly would never use it in that fashion.

How is that for much more than you wanted to know? :D
 
DSYoungEsq said:
Um, who is fighting? I am in agreement with Slargos, and I was making a joke with my last post, so I am somewhat mystified at this post. :wacko:


And what happened to my quite succint subsequent post which politely restated my position on pauses?


Well its not the first time you two have been "agreeing"

And your posts were moved as were a bunch of others.
 
BiB said:
Why did you pause quite a lot during our MP game monday?

did you notice i did that in battles ? before accusing
 
Slargos said:
You shouldn't be so victory oriented. Relax. Take a load off, guy. :p

Well, IIRC you abandoned some games after some rather terrible defeats? I guess you are now above such things and learned to relax :D
 
arcorelli said:
Well, IIRC you abandoned some games after some rather terrible defeats? I guess you are now above such things and learned to relax :D

Can't you see here how relaxed I am? :D

Take a load off, guy. :D

Some games is hardly fair.

I've never left a game over a defeat. I've left a couple of games in protest of general behaviour as opposed to stipulated behaviour. The distinction may be meaningless to everyone but me, but I see it. :wacko:

Victory is the spice of this game. Having victory stolen by abusive use of the pause function makes me gnash my teeth in rightous fury. I guess I'm a crybaby. :D
 
Slargos said:
Victory is the spice of this game. Having victory stolen by abusive use of the pause function makes me gnash my teeth in rightous fury. I guess I'm a crybaby. :D

I agree and share with such righteous fury (and regarding the other thing, I'm relaxing right now and preparing to leave work for a nice weekend, :cool: )
 
arcorelli said:
I agree and share with such righteous fury (and regarding the other thing, I'm relaxing right now and preparing to leave work for a nice weekend, :cool: )

What? :confused:

You don't work through the weekend? Next, you're going to tell me everyone takes their weekends off. :confused: :wacko: