Multi behavior

[Ktonos]

So I got PD:N for the better part of 2 weeks. I started playing several solo skirmish games vs Medium AI.
First games were mayhem and AI served me my ass in a plate, but lately I am confident of having something in the lines of 2:1 victory rate in Solo.

So I decided to make the jump to Multi. I've 5 games in 1 week, won 3 lost 2, but in those lost I was the reason the team lost and even in victories I was the one dragging the team back, with the exception of a game were the opponent I faced was realy bad.

Generally speaking I am under the impression that people are very demanding from their teammates and you will get scolded if you are not doing well. Also I've been kicked from lobbies in the first 10-20 seconds I took a sit. I suppose because either my name isn't known and I am -correctly- assumed to be a noob. In lobbies that I am not kicked I usually say that I am new and then its 50-50 that the players will be ok with that or I will be kicked again.

So...questions

1) Did I make the leap from solo to multi to early? Must I dominate the Med AI before I go multiplayer?
2) Why there are so more Running games in the main lobby than they actually are? On average the lobby displays 60+ "running games" but the games current;y "fighting" would be 4 or 5.
3) Are people more accepting of noobs than I seem to believe or do I have it right?
4) One time I was kicked from a server the moment I changed from Allies to Axis. Do people have an issue with who plays which sides?
5) Whats the Ranked and Quick game modes? When I use those I end up alone in an empty game server.
6) In my many solo games I play Axis, and have 2 decks. The Fallschirmjaegers, which I know from the forums that are strong and noob friendly, and the Hitlerjunged which I find to have the best win-lose ratio vs the AI, but have yet to play in my few Multi games because I read in the forums that panzer decks need experienced players to manage them. Is that right, or should I use this deck that I feel more comfortable with in Multi?

 

[Claremont Waltz]

I don't think the lobby will show "fighting" games unless people are playing on Eugen servers or have spectate on because the games are all P2P.

You don't have to tell people you're new. You've got enough experience at this point that you won't trip over your own feet trying to play and that's good enough for most games.

Generally if people kick you for joining a faction it's because they're planning on stacking with their buddies as that faction.

Ranked/QP you have to select a deck and hit the search button. It'll drop you into as balanced a game as it can, so not very. Really only used for 1v1 unfortunately.

12ss is easy to play. The only decks to shy away from as a new player are Lehr and 3AD because they teach you bad habits and have a tough early game.

 

[Herr_Robert]

1) Did I make the leap from solo to multi to early? Must I dominate the Med AI before I go multiplayer?

Of course not. You have just as much right to play the game as someone who has 200h+ in it. No need to even ask.

4) One time I was kicked from a server the moment I changed from Allies to Axis. Do people have an issue with who plays which sides?

Perhaps the host saved the slot for a friend.

6) In my many solo games I play Axis, and have 2 decks. The Fallschirmjaegers, which I know from the forums that are strong and noob friendly, and the Hitlerjunged which I find to have the best win-lose ratio vs the AI, but have yet to play in my few Multi games because I read in the forums that panzer decks need experienced players to manage them. Is that right, or should I use this deck that I feel more comfortable with in Multi?

12th SS is a beginner-friendly deck for multiplayer games. You get truck infantry, SP artillery and strong tanks that require little micromanagement because you can often keep them in the open and take shots to the front from max range. Also, I would personally recommend Luftlande over 3FJ to a beginner, because of the cheap ersatz infantry.

 

[Ddraig5400]

So I got PD:N for the better part of 2 weeks. I started playing several solo skirmish games vs Medium AI.
First games were mayhem and AI served me my ass in a plate, but lately I am confident of having something in the lines of 2:1 victory rate in Solo.

So I decided to make the jump to Multi. I've 5 games in 1 week, won 3 lost 2, but in those lost I was the reason the team lost and even in victories I was the one dragging the team back, with the exception of a game were the opponent I faced was realy bad.

Generally speaking I am under the impression that people are very demanding from their teammates and you will get scolded if you are not doing well. Also I've been kicked from lobbies in the first 10-20 seconds I took a sit. I suppose because either my name isn't known and I am -correctly- assumed to be a noob. In lobbies that I am not kicked I usually say that I am new and then its 50-50 that the players will be ok with that or I will be kicked again.

So...questions

1) Did I make the leap from solo to multi to early? Must I dominate the Med AI before I go multiplayer?
2) Why there are so more Running games in the main lobby than they actually are? On average the lobby displays 60+ "running games" but the games current;y "fighting" would be 4 or 5.
3) Are people more accepting of noobs than I seem to believe or do I have it right?
4) One time I was kicked from a server the moment I changed from Allies to Axis. Do people have an issue with who plays which sides?
5) Whats the Ranked and Quick game modes? When I use those I end up alone in an empty game server.
6) In my many solo games I play Axis, and have 2 decks. The Fallschirmjaegers, which I know from the forums that are strong and noob friendly, and the Hitlerjunged which I find to have the best win-lose ratio vs the AI, but have yet to play in my few Multi games because I read in the forums that panzer decks need experienced players to manage them. Is that right, or should I use this deck that I feel more comfortable with in Multi?

1) you have every right to play.
3) I know that some people will kick you if you have a bad connection.
6) Most divisions are pretty player friendly I'd say, just play the one that suites yourself or the map.

 

[Ktonos]

My ping is always green with 4 bars.

Ok, got it regarding the games not showing. So if I host a game which is visible during player recruiting it will disappear from the lobby once we get into the actual game?

Many thanks for the replies.

 

[Claremont Waltz]

My ping is always green with 4 bars.

Ok, got it regarding the games not showing. So if I host a game which is visible during player recruiting it will disappear from the lobby once we get into the actual game?

Many thanks for the replies.

Your ping looks good to you because you're pinging yourself. Travel time is nil. Does everyone else look like they have shit ping? Then you're probably someone who has shit ping.

Yes, if it isn't 4v4 or spectator mode it wills disappear.

 

[Ktonos]

Well with my previous net provider I had issues and my ping in multiplayer games was always mediocre, with my new provider I have 4/4 bars most of the time, so I assumed as I said above.
Most people I've seen in SD multiplayer lobbies have 4/4 bars. In the 9-10 games I've played online I've never been disconnected, but in every other game someone else does. I think my connection is at least above average.

 

[Maximillion Veers]

Some people are a bit jerky with kicking people out of lobbies and never giving an explanation as to why, but I hope you don't get turned off from Multi play because of it. This game needs players or it will die slowly so it bothers me that players out there are acting like assholes and discouraging newer players to the multiplayer scene.

As far as jumping in too early, I'd say so long as you understand the games principle mechanics, you're ready. Experience fighting players is the only way to improve and fighting the AI can be misleading as training for multi player as it rarely behaves anything like a human opponent.

 

[Herr_Robert]

Some people are a bit jerky with kicking people out of lobbies and never giving an explanation as to why, but I hope you don't get turned off from Multi play because of it. This game needs players or it will die slowly so it bothers me that players out there are acting like assholes and discouraging newer players to the multiplayer scene.

As far as jumping in too early, I'd say so long as you understand the games principle mechanics, you're ready. Experience fighting players is the only way to improve and fighting the AI can be misleading as training for multi player as it rarely behaves anything like a human opponent.

Exactly. It's for example easy to dominate the AI with planes, but if you try to use planes vs a player without proper support, you will throw away alot of precious resources. The AI is also completely inept when it faces heavy tanks.

 

[o0970o]

IIt's recommended to play and training with AI first, but you always have the right to play multi. It's good to play against AI with infantry decks, it will help you to learn the game mechanics.
It's not important about win or lose as beginner, it's important that you have learn something and change your deck as beginner.
The ping bar shows the connection begin you and the player, so you will always be green. But if you see many other players get bad ping pls leave, or it will be a high chance for lag and drop.

 

[Apolyon]

In addition, to enjoy the multi, you should find a mate with nearly the same level to team-up your game. Even if the game is intresting alone in all modes, team-playing and building team play/co-op strategies are really the best piece of cake of SD.

 

[roirraw]

Players rely on certain units and methods to augment their play style, AI really does not do this. If you focus on learning each battlegroup unit availability in each phase, you will know what to expect versus any player. Learn what units fire at 1200m range in A phase, what units are hard counters to other units and what units you get very few of in a battlegroup - like panzerwerfers, flamehalf tracks, sherman 105s, hellcats and such.

Microing these units can allow you to make the best out of your units and effectively destroy or deny a human players the ability to fight you, thus you have won. Versus the AI, you have to defeat all their units most of the time, players don't play like that and learning the difference will change how you build your battlegroups and defeat other people regularly. Speed, shock, suppression and range will be your most effective tools against a human player.

 

[Ktonos]

Really good advice all around. Many thanks!