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As I have been accused of being a master of exploits, I'd like to start a list here of all MP exploits so they can be rooted out. I'll start with what I know:

1. Using lag, you can make convoys/escorts go into the minuses, thereby adding more to your total force pool.

2. If you send a plane as an expeditionary force to a nation, no matter where it is, it will fly there.

3. By sending a unit to an ai as an exp. force, you can reinforce it at no cost to yourself.

4. Other neutral players can scout for you. e.g Russia scouting for Britain or Italy scouting for Germany to find any Royal Navy ships etc.

Feel free, and don't be shy, to add more.
 
One exploit you forgot omni, your best one. Spill the beans and tell everyone on this forum about all your exploits in cluding the ones your saving to bring out against other people in order to win.

Well omni got caught out tonight. He uses more exploits then what he admits. He uses an expoit where he places US comcumer goods at half and his disent only increases by 0.01, and then stops at 2 percent. This gives the US a war economiy from the very start of the game. So Us would have every tech by 1941. Ruined 10 hours of playing for 5 other players, in our group. So omni is now banned.

We have also found out that he used this exploit in our previous game as germany. He smashed the USSR, he fought well to hold him for for around a year. So he had to cheat in order to beat us. I feel sorry for jh who waited so long to finaly fight as the USSR and then was cheated out of a good fight. What a waste of time.

PLease do not play omni if you wish to have a good fair game. If you want to use exploits and cheat play him.
 
Originally posted by Omni

4. Other neutral players can scout for you. e.g Russia scouting for Britain or Italy scouting for Germany to find any Royal Navy ships etc.

In spanish phorum we consider that this is not a exploit ( we speak about this 1 month ago) because historically any neutrals do it.

The rest are ok
 
OK mike, since you know so much about this exploit, mind posting it in detail for all to know? I for one would love to know what it is. It was very strange that while you were my ally, you were praising me and telling me what a good job I was doing, and the fact that jh was not too good at playing the SU. Now, just because I am your opponent, and was outeching you, seeing as how you are not a very good player, (not to mention the UK and SU also outeched you), you make up some fairy tale plot in order for the game to be cancelled, which it was, and subsequently, I was banned. I accept the ban, and seeing as how I already have a PA group which I am sure does not think I am cheat, I will continue on my merry way enjoying HOI with a different, and far better group. You are a whiner, and I have yet to see anyone complain as much as you. If you are winning, all is well, but if you are losing, he who is kicking your a$$ is a cheat, and must be dealt with and banned.

He claims that my dissent was rising by 0.01, yet, my dissent was stuck at 2. How could this be? Could it possibly be that when he loaded the save to spy on his opponents, the slider bars for IC management changed? No, it could not possible be this. Omni being a cheat is the only possible reason, how else could he be beating me? No, Omni is not just a good player, who is better than me, but he is a lousy cheat who must be banned so that he doesn't ever get the chance to challenge me, as I don't have the balls to face up to possible loss.

You are a racist and a sore loser. A racist because you resorted to calling my a dirty arab over a game, and a sore loser because when faced with the prospect of being beaten, not just beaten, but utterly annihalated by a hated opponent of yours, you invent a scheme then get your puppy (Munster) to play along, and get the evil fiend (me) banned. Have a good time playing your scripted HOI games.

Just a note, if you are ever playing with these guys (Mike & Munster) don't dare outech them, or even seem to challenge them. They will brand you a cheat and ban you from their games. Not only this, but he has already proven that he checks on people's saves to spy out any information. So much for reconnaisance, what's the point when he can just save, fake a crash and then spy on all your troops and production?
 
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Bah, there are so many exploits possible, I think it is faster and easier to name the actions that are not considered an exploit.
 
For your information omni, joel checked your save and everyones save to make sure no one was cheating, including mine. Joel was very fair. Once he check your prevoius game and found you used the same exploit to win, that was it. You have been officaly labeled a cheater. And speaking to other people on vnet you seem to be well know as a cheat. So first get your facts straight.

Second I had no part in discovering that you were cheating, you were wrong again.

Thirdly I was prepared to give you a good chance as i know you are only 15 and imature, what can be expected of a kid.

Forth. Joel look at your preovius game where you beat the USSR as Germany and used the same exploit. He played both your games for a few months and saw exactly how u used the exploit with consumer goods. So you cheated to beat Jh.

Fith - You have never beaten me in a game of HOI. You tried as Germany i was UK, Munster was France and you couldnt even beat us there. You were stuck facing the prospect of war in france and USSR at same time. So you cannot call me a sore loser as you have never beaten me.

You knew we wanted to play long regular games, fairly with some house rules. You knew this and kept braking them. How can 5 other players be wrong. Of course your always right, you know everything at the tender age of 15. Congratulations your just like every other kid in the world, with alot to learn.
 
Re: Re: Multiplayer Exploits

Originally posted by Citizen_X
In spanish phorum we consider that this is not a exploit ( we speak about this 1 month ago) because historically any neutrals do it.

The rest are ok


The reeason he said u were doing good is because at the time he didn't now u were using a major exploit to be able to do what u were doing.
 
Seems to me like you ignored the entire post I just made. I've already said that there can be another reason as to why the dissent didn't rise when he tried the save, nothing to do with my using an exploit. But ofcourse, there is no way that the second option can possibly be true, not for your own interests anyway.

And by the way, you prove your immaturity when you refer to me as a 15, even thought I am 17 yrs old, teen. Treat me as you would like to be treated, as an adult. I don't treat you as a child, although you act like it 3/4 of the time.

For EVERY game that I play, I ALWAYS have cg IC about half way. For EVERY game that I play, if the save is loaded, the IC distribution will look identical, because my strategy DOES NOT change for ANY country that I play. Get that through your head.

As for not beating you, you didn't beat me either. We had a game on Friday, that I am sure you will not continue, where I could very well have beaten you. Remember the one where you showed your racist side?

As soon as you accused me of cheating, instead of trying to understand what was going on, you made a conclusion then acted like an immature child, throwing tantrums.
 
I not interested weather i win or lose all i want is a good game, as do the other 4 players who banned you. If keeping discent at half way only increases the daily rise in disent to 0.01 a day, and then stops at 2 percent, which we have now seen in saves in all your games you play with us. If this is not an exploit then what is.
Simply play fair like we agreed in the begining over 3 games ago now, but you just dont listen, not to me, joel, jh, major ball or munster. You dont now everything, just like I or anyone else dosnt. If you want to play in a gorup then you abide by gorup rules, simple. If you dont your banned, and that what happened.

Its not only our group, you have stepped on alot of toes in vnet as well. People dont like players who exploit the game just to win.

Just play fair, abide by the rules people set out. Weather that is to play an historical game or a free for all it is up to the group. If you dont want to play the way the group does, simple find another group to play with, instead of wasting 5 other peoples time.
 
Lol, your total posts are rising fast now ;)

Mike, why don't you believe me when I say that I am not using an exploit? I have done absolutely NOTHING to allow me to reach the level of techs that I have reached now. Check any save you have ever played with me, and you will see identical ic distribution.

I'm never going to accept the fact that you wasted 10 hrs of my time, to call me a cheat and get me banned, all because you can't explain why I am outeching you so badly.
 
Once again you are wrong. I didnt raise the issue, others within the group did. I did have an issue with you in another game but not this one. Untill a few hours ago i thought this game was going good.
I dont control what others do, they make there own minds up, and made there own votes. And you were votes out.

You are the weakest link, Goodbye.
 
u got yourself banned when everyone else decided to c for themselves what u were doing and they came back and made up there own minds what to do after looking at what u had done with there own eyes. and the fact that five pl had seen what u sone with there own eyes has got to mean only one thing u were tried fairly by your fellow game members. and found guilty but having all these pl finding u gulty don't mean anything to u because the masses are all wrong and your always right arn't u!!!!!!!!!!!!!! but u can't get it through your think head that u r in the wrong.
 
I am the weakest link? You know my little 6 yr old sister says that, just goes to show your intelligence level.

Actually, I checked the chat you had when I was afk, and it was all you baby. 'Oh, jgbaxter, the leader of the PA is going to talk to him about cheating, and might ban him!'

'How on earth could he have such good techs PLUS nukes? That's impossible, no way!'

You liar, it was all you and your puppy Munster.
 
At the end of the day, I would have beaten the two of you so hard, and then nuked you on top of it. You are noobs, and now that I am not faced with the prospect of destroying you, I actually see that it is not much of an accomplishment. Yeah, I remember our last PA game Munster, remember, the one where you lost France in less then a week? You really are a crappy player.

Good night all.
 
Once again WRONG, You were not privledged to our full conversations. Why do you think jh asked you to leave, hang on jh has it in for you to dosnt he. Simple fact is your banned. End of story. Go find some other group to stuff there games up and waste everyone time.

Isnt it past your bedtime.
 
Prasie Allah, quick i must go and pray that i can play HOI tonight without cheating. Otherwise i will lose and look like a noob. Well you are a noob, to resort to using exploits and cheats in order to just win.

Oh and befor you go making accusations about your religion, dont go talking about other peoples wives like that. If you cant take the heat get out of the fire and play with the school girls.
 
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